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Post by trubble on Jul 7, 2010 11:08:50 GMT
I mean, you can't very well have a discussion about Montmorency's ennui when one of us is quoting Mr Bump's take on the matter, now can you? Not a sensible one.
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Post by trubble on Jul 7, 2010 11:11:34 GMT
I think we'll have to move the World Cup discussion permanently to this thread, Riot. Otherwise I can't see it. Same goes for all topics really. Personally I think this will be a turning point for the Stub. A USP, if you will: all topics on one thread alone making for the longest thread in proboard history.
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 7, 2010 11:17:57 GMT
But what can be wrong with your silly browser that this is the only thread you can communicate on? Sounds like the sort of thing you might be making up out of laziness.
And, oh, I'd forgotten I'm supposed to be reading that book. Sorry. I've never read it either.
I'm not keen on fiction - as I keep saying. (Although I'm actually reading fiction just now .. 'Cannibal in Manhattan' by that bird with the funny name who wrote 'Slaves of New York' . . Tama Janowitz or something. I like her a wee bit.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2010 11:18:58 GMT
Can't believe any of you guys are supporting the Krauts against our fine Protestant neighbours and long-term trading partners the Dutch. For shame. WHY?? theyre amazing this year, the German team, playing the best football of the tournament, v. hard working, fluid passing, great team work and inventive play.. a joy to watch qwuite frankly. and my baybeee is half german so there is that as well
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 7, 2010 11:19:56 GMT
Can't believe any of you guys are supporting the Krauts against our fine Protestant neighbours and long-term trading partners the Dutch. For shame. WHY?? theyre amazing this year, the German team, playing the best football of the tournament, v. hard working, fluid passing, great team work and inventive play.. a joy to watch qwuite frankly. and my baybeee is half german so there is that as well As every Scottish fan knows, the quality of football being played is not a reason to support or not support a team. And be careful with your half-Deutsch missus. She'll be all lovely and cuddly on the top half maybe, but her feet will be invading Poland.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2010 11:23:52 GMT
is that some type of bizarre euphamism?
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Post by Weyland on Jul 7, 2010 12:03:52 GMT
Oops . I think we've accidentally trailed the World Cup discussion into two different threads now. That'll teach us (those of us who do 'last 50 posts' instead of going by threads.) On the contrary, the Recent Posts modus operandi strategy sidesteps that potential problem rather neatly. It becomes a non-problem, except perhaps for the poor wretches who don't know any better. But they may well be unteachable.
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Post by Weyland on Jul 7, 2010 12:10:54 GMT
Can't believe any of you guys are supporting the Krauts against our fine Protestant neighbours and long-term trading partners the Dutch. For shame. The biggest religious group in the Netherlands is Catholic, and has been for quite a while. In Germany Catholic and Protestant groups are about equal. But surely you're not supporting Holland on religious grounds? For shame.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2010 12:19:22 GMT
i supported the Dutch in their semi final against Uruguay, mainly because they are all noice n european n that, and also cos i couldnt bring meself to support a team that sounds like txt speak for UR A GAYY . innit. LOL.
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 7, 2010 12:38:52 GMT
Can't believe any of you guys are supporting the Krauts against our fine Protestant neighbours and long-term trading partners the Dutch. For shame. The biggest religious group in the Netherlands is Catholic, and has been for quite a while. In Germany Catholic and Protestant groups are about equal. But surely you're not supporting Holland on religious grounds? For shame. I'm supporting them as there is a long historical tradition of joint trade and joint education between Scotland and the Netherlands. And because the Netherlands didn't invade Poland.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2010 12:40:22 GMT
' joint trade' between Scotland and Amsterdam.. well qwuite.
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 7, 2010 12:57:02 GMT
' joint trade' between Scotland and Amsterdam.. well qwuite. The slip was purely Freudian.
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Post by Weyland on Jul 7, 2010 13:00:55 GMT
I'm supporting them as there is a long historical tradition of joint trade and joint education between Scotland and the Netherlands. And because the Netherlands didn't invade Poland. It's a great country, and no mistake. I'll be there tomorrow. Also the last country to invade England [sic], when they raided the Medway. If they had but known it, they could have continued up the Thames to London practically unopposed, on account of the shambolic government and gormless King. But they didn't, so they buggered off back to Holland with their spoils, some of which are in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam. Samuel Pepys put it like this in his diary: "Thus in all things, in wisdom, courage, force, knowledge of our own streams, and success, the Dutch have the best of us, and do end the war with victory on their side". No doubt Joachim Löw will be saying something along those lines on Sunday.
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Post by everso on Jul 7, 2010 17:14:01 GMT
William of Orange wasn't very popular over here though, was he? And, in any case, I'm amazed that Riot supports Holland. James II, the ousted king, was of Scottish descent wasn't he? Although, to be fair, I suppose William was as well, on his mother's side.
Too confusing for words.
I like history I do.
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 7, 2010 19:24:20 GMT
William of Orange wasn't very popular over here though, was he? And, in any case, I'm amazed that Riot supports Holland. James II, the ousted king, was of Scottish descent wasn't he? Although, to be fair, I suppose William was as well, on his mother's side. Too confusing for words. I like history I do. There are parts of the UK where William of Orange remains extremely popular. They paint murals of him and march around annually to celebrate him. I'm thinking of places like Larkhall and the Shankill. 1690, Battle of the Boyne, William of Orange led the troops to defend civil liberties against absolute monarchy. The cause was just. A shame that it's now so closely associated with drunken anti-Catholic bigots. (Note for Ev's historical research; of course James WAS a Catholic, but he didn't fight FOR Catholicism so much as he fought for absolute monarchy.)
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Post by Weyland on Jul 7, 2010 20:46:11 GMT
1690, Battle of the Boyne, William of Orange led the troops to defend civil liberties against absolute monarchy. Yeah, and he also gave the orders that culminated in the massacre of the MacDonalds in Glencoe. But he was a great far right winger for Ajax before he got royal.
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 7, 2010 22:07:35 GMT
1690, Battle of the Boyne, William of Orange led the troops to defend civil liberties against absolute monarchy. Yeah, and he also gave the orders that culminated in the massacre of the MacDonalds in Glencoe. But he was a great far right winger for Ajax before he got royal. Glencoe, Schmencoe. You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. When serious Scottish historians talk about Glencoe, they always end their remarks with something like "and it was the start of the end of the ancient Highland clan system." The thing is, they say it like it's a bad thing. Whereas me, I'm punching the air giong 'YESSSSS', because, frankly, it's an embarassment to Scotland that while those of us down here in the central belt were inventing modern democracy, capitalism, having an enlightenment and all that, those crazed kilt-wearing feckers up North were still running around in tribes.
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Post by Weyland on Jul 8, 2010 6:22:46 GMT
Yeah, and he also gave the orders that culminated in the massacre of the MacDonalds in Glencoe. But he was a great far right winger for Ajax before he got royal. Glencoe, Schmencoe. You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. The slogan of the tyrant since time immemorial. And your Enlightenment's solution -- break them like eggs. You invented capitalism? So now we know. You can run, but you can't hide. "Those crazed feckers up North still running around in tribes" sounds like the Englishman-in-the-street's image of the Scots. (Not mine, of course.)
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 8, 2010 7:05:33 GMT
Glencoe, Schmencoe. You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. The slogan of the tyrant since time immemorial. And your Enlightenment's solution -- break them like eggs. You invented capitalism? So now we know. You can run, but you can't hide. "Those crazed feckers up North still running around in tribes" sounds like the Englishman-in-the-street's image of the Scots. (Not mine, of course.) That's the problem. I recommend this not-at-all hyperbolic book to you to educate yourself about the real nation of Scotland. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_the_Scots_Invented_the_Modern_World
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Post by Weyland on Jul 8, 2010 7:17:06 GMT
It'll have to wait until I've read How the Irish Saved Civilization by Thomas Cahill, and Scotland: The Autography by Rosemary Goring (editor). Really -- they're in the pending stack. But in any case I don't need to be educated about Scotland, thank you. I probably think I know as much as you think you do (except that I've never lived there).
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