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Post by Weyland on Aug 16, 2010 16:37:26 GMT
The CoT remake wasn't bad for me. I hear they're doing a sequel, so at least that should be all new 
Scared me when I first saw it circa 1956. Now I can see it for what it is -- a brilliant SF reworking of The Tempest, only much, much better. In short, a masterwork which will never be bettered.  |
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Post by motorist on Aug 16, 2010 16:44:48 GMT
I already knew it was a Tempest in space, but I didn't when I first saw it. Young Leslie Nielsen was the captain if I recall Oh, and Kurt Russell's "The Thing" was much better than the original with the vegetable from space btw, "Return to the Forbidden Planet" was pretty good but it wasn't a film, it was a musical play, I saw it once in a theatre  |
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Post by Weyland on Aug 16, 2010 17:02:51 GMT
Oh, and Kurt Russell's "The Thing" was much better than the original with the vegetable from space Agreed. Another masterpiece. The first few minutes of the soundtrack are enough to get the Fear Reflex well and truly engaged. And the ending is brilliant. Chilling. |
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Aug 16, 2010 17:23:04 GMT
I have the 50th anniversary 2 disc DVD set of FP.  You guys want to see "The Thing" on Blu-Ray...lovely picture/transfer. AH |
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Post by aubrey on Aug 17, 2010 9:46:28 GMT
Yes, exactly. Those types of films (slasher films, I call them) are horror porn. Lots of men seem to like them though.  I prefer being scared witless by ghosts. Not that I really believe in that sort of thing, which is odd. I've never seen any, but I don't like the idea of horror porn. My sister does like it, though. (I do like real porn.) All horror things are more harrowing if you get to like or at least know the people involved: which is one of the things that makes George Romero Zombie films so good; you might not necessarily like the people trapped by the Zombies, but they are real people. Oh, Jason and the As - what a beautiful film. Gene Wolfe has a couple of books set in ancient Greece, and he gets a wonderful feeling of being at the start of things, with everyuthing unspoiled, clean seas etc, and Jason has just the same feeling. I've seen reviews of it saying that that giant - the one that scared Ev (and me) - is too stiff and unsteady to be scary; but surely something that size, and that weight, would be stiff and unsteady. It would not walk like a human as the balance would be different (a human that size would not be able to live out of water, for the same reason why beached whales always die: their organs get crushed by their weight). Anyway, I thought it was nice that a film of this kind - an adventure film - showed something that was at least partly realistic. Sorry sorry sorry. I liked Blair Witch, and it would have been quite scary if I hadn't read about the woman in it saying that she had been treated better while making that than she had while making other indie films. Ring was dead good, even if I didn't (as Mark Kermode promised) literally shit myself when the woman came out of the TV. Even the US version was good, except for the bit where someone fell down a well and didn't hurt themselves by bouncing off the sides. I watched Aguirre, Wrath of God yesterday. The first time I saw this I was scared all the way through. There was really the idea that no one making the film knew what was going to happen next (which has some truth in it), and so anything could happen. The bit where they find the remains of a cannibal feast was just chilling. Yesterday I knew what was going to happen - I must have seen it more than ten times - I mean literally - but it was still wonderful. |
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Post by motorist on Aug 17, 2010 10:56:33 GMT
On a side note, the giant in Jason was "The Bronze Man of Talos". In the original myth, he came out of the volcano stomping after the ship and Orpheus put it to sleep with his magic flute. LAME!!! I much preferred the film battle I concur that the slow and creaky factor didn't detract from its fearsomeness. To me, it spoke of "I'm fecking hard and unstoppable and tireless and I'm after YOU" I quite liked the Bronze minotaur (Minoton?) in Eye of the Tiger, a shame it was beaten pulling a brick out of the pyramid |
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Post by everso on Aug 17, 2010 11:03:22 GMT
On a side note, the giant in Jason was "The Bronze Man of Talos". In the original myth, he came out of the volcano stomping after the ship and Orpheus put it to sleep with his magic flute. LAME!!! I much preferred the film battle I concur that the slow and creaky factor didn't detract from its fearsomeness. To me, it spoke of "I'm fecking hard and unstoppable and tireless and I'm after YOU" I quite liked the Bronze minotaur (Minoton?) in Eye of the Tiger, a shame it was beaten pulling a brick out of the pyramid The Talos man scared me because of the creaking and also because he looked a bit vague. |
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Post by Weyland on Aug 17, 2010 11:26:07 GMT
The Talos man scared me because of the creaking and also because he looked a bit vague. The way I heard it, Talos was a robot built by Dædalus for King Minos, whose function was to patrol the Cretan beaches on the lookout for tourist bimbos violating the strict dress regulations (iow wearing too much). Dædalus also invented wings so that he and his son Icarus could fly to the mainland to grab the Golden Apples of the Sun, or something, but it all ended in tears, and consequently the British nicked all the marbles. |
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Aug 17, 2010 18:04:12 GMT
On a side note, the giant in Jason was "The Bronze Man of Talos". In the original myth, he came out of the volcano stomping after the ship and Orpheus put it to sleep with his magic flute. LAME!!! I much preferred the film battle I concur that the slow and creaky factor didn't detract from its fearsomeness. To me, it spoke of "I'm fecking hard and unstoppable and tireless and I'm after YOU" I quite liked the Bronze minotaur (Minoton?) in Eye of the Tiger, a shame it was beaten pulling a brick out of the pyramidRubbish end for a cool robot-monster.  I loved the idea of this bad-ass "robot" in a story about ancient mythical creatures. When I am an evil sorceror I too will have robot minions. AH |
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Post by aubrey on Aug 17, 2010 20:04:34 GMT
Oh, I'd have fighting skellingtons as well. They're great.
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Aug 17, 2010 20:37:13 GMT
Oh, I'd have fighting skellingtons as well. They're great. Robot skeleton minions! ;D AH |
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Post by motorist on Aug 17, 2010 20:49:39 GMT
On a side note, the giant in Jason was "The Bronze Man of Talos". In the original myth, he came out of the volcano stomping after the ship and Orpheus put it to sleep with his magic flute. LAME!!! I much preferred the film battle I concur that the slow and creaky factor didn't detract from its fearsomeness. To me, it spoke of "I'm fecking hard and unstoppable and tireless and I'm after YOU" I quite liked the Bronze minotaur (Minoton?) in Eye of the Tiger, a shame it was beaten pulling a brick out of the pyramidRubbish end for a cool robot-monster. I loved the idea of this bad-ass "robot" in a story about ancient mythical creatures. When I am an evil sorceror I too will have robot minions. AH I don't think it was a robot, it was an animated golem. But it was still funky Now you mention it, I do recall a robot in a fantasy film. In Red Sonja when that annoying kid prince wanted the gem from the statue, and the robot crocogator thingy attacked |
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Post by motorist on Aug 17, 2010 20:53:56 GMT
Bit of both. Animated by sorcery but using a clockwork heart thing too |
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Post by aubrey on Aug 18, 2010 19:09:06 GMT
Oh, Christ, and there was that Robot Owl in Clash of the Titans. What was it about 80s films, that they always had to have something cute in them?
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Post by housesparrow on Aug 19, 2010 8:41:34 GMT
Someone on the radio this week was mourning the demise of the psycholical horror thriller, saying it had been replaced by scenes of torture and violence instead of leaving such things to the imagination. I'm not sure that is entirely true but the last horror film I saw certainly ended disappointingly in violence; the creepy part of Blair Witch was not knowing exactly what had happened.
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Post by aubrey on Aug 19, 2010 9:48:45 GMT
"Ring" doesn't have any blood.
I think you still do get non-bloody horror films, though (not that I can think of any at the moment). Torture and violence are in many ways a cop-out (in the same way that a Dr Who series that ends with a fight between The Doctor and The Master is a cop-out) - it is just an easy resolution.
I just wanted to say that I hated Descent, purely because I found the characters annoying.
I am going to watch Antichrist this weekend - Charlotte Gainsbourg cutting her fanny up and that.
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Post by everso on Aug 19, 2010 10:09:21 GMT
Someone on the radio this week was mourning the demise of the psycholical horror thriller, saying it had been replaced by scenes of torture and violence instead of leaving such things to the imagination. I'm not sure that is entirely true but the last horror film I saw certainly ended disappointingly in violence; the creepy part of Blair Witch was not knowing exactly what had happened. Yes, that's right. I like creepy. |
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