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Post by housesparrow on Apr 5, 2009 18:47:33 GMT
The "religious" bit has been discussed on some of the Archers threads (in the Village Hall). You can take it or leave it: someone said if he told his group your Higher Power was a fluffy rabbit no-one would blink an eyelid. Or it can be some strength within yourself if you so choose.
But I also gather from the threads that the AA is not for everyone. That's a pity because it does seem to have a monopoly in many areas.
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Post by bonbonlarue on Apr 5, 2009 18:51:58 GMT
We have our own control. Do it or don't do it.
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Post by percyplum on Apr 5, 2009 21:06:12 GMT
We have our own control. Do it or don't do it. Yes, choice. |
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Post by everso on Apr 6, 2009 0:30:46 GMT
One thing though..that article has made me think. I have enough digestive problems... diverticulitis just like the author, though thankfully, not requiring surgery. Time to reassess my drinking. I have no desire to die yet. Same here, BB. |
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Post by housesparrow on Apr 6, 2009 9:34:08 GMT
I feel better the next day if I don't have a drink. Even one glass of wine seems to wreck the evening, and the following evening I'm so tired I pour another. Pathetic, isn't it?
When I quite smoking for a year or so I decided I could allow myself the odd ciggie; within a matter of weeks I was back on 20 a day. Next time I tried I didn't make that mistake and I fear that "cutting down" on drink is much harder than just stopping altogether.
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Post by bonbonlarue on Apr 6, 2009 11:50:42 GMT
I know that without a drink I get a proper nights sleep and awake refreshed. Just wish I could remember that feeling when I get in from work all fraught and knackered and wine seems like a good idea!
I think it's in me to stop now though...just needed that push.
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Post by percyplum on Apr 6, 2009 12:54:08 GMT
When I was younger I drank an awful lot. Not every night, but mostly weekends.
Now I have maybe a glass or two of wine or a scotch a few times a week. Sometimes not even that.
I discovered that brewers like Carlsberg, Cobra, Stella Artois and Becks all make alcohol-free and very low alcohol beers. They taste a Hell of a lot better than a few years ago when anything low-alcohol tasted ghastly. I always have those in for when I'm driving and generally for when we fancy a beer but not a headache!
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Post by housesparrow on Apr 6, 2009 17:36:12 GMT
percyplum - I love wine, but not the after effects and have been trying in vain to find some low-alcohol wine.
I tried Kaliber alcohol free beer years ago but my hangover the next day was just as bad as with the real thing, and I put it down to the chemical process of removing the alcohol.
I'm afraid I have a glass or two of wine nearly every night. I try to have two alcohol free days a week but often don't manage more than one!
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Post by motorist on Apr 6, 2009 17:41:46 GMT
When I was younger I drank an awful lot When I was a student (and shortly after) I was doing that. Strongbow, Merrydown or Diamond White (for strong ciders). Then I took to liking brandy or whiskey, but only once in a blue moon |
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Post by percyplum on Apr 6, 2009 18:34:12 GMT
percyplum - I love wine, but not the after effects and have been trying in vain to find some low-alcohol wine. I tried Kaliber alcohol free beer years ago but my hangover the next day was just as bad as with the real thing, and I put it down to the chemical process of removing the alcohol. I'm afraid I have a glass or two of wine nearly every night. I try to have two alcohol free days a week but often don't manage more than one! Kal;iber used to be absolutely disgusting. It's a bit better now but Stella and Carlsberg are excellent. I don't have the capacity for more than a couple of beers anyway but I've never had a hangover from those two brands. |
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Post by sesley on Apr 6, 2009 18:50:29 GMT
a sad tale, and one which will get worse in this economice 21 century depression as people seek a block out quick fix for their troubles.what can society do? you can't ban alcohol,you can't make it more expensive to young people and you can't raise the age of legal drinking age to 21, a 18 year old can buy enough alcohol for a party in one purchase and you know they aren't drinking it by themselves, all we can do is if they seem to be with lots of other people hanging about stop the sell ,as the friends won't all have ID on them. last week in our papers a 17 year old girl was found dead with a vodka bottle nearby, where did she get it from? maybe she stole it off her parents or maybe they bought it for her or someone illegally sold it to her without bothering to check her ID if it was her or a 18 year old was able to buy it and supply it. the alcohol abuse in the UK in 21 century has gone out of hand and something more effective and draconian methods needs to be adopted. the tax they get off the alcohol gets spent on things like bailing out banks i expect. and not sunk into medical and preventative care for people affected by its abuse. |
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Post by bonbonlarue on Apr 6, 2009 19:01:25 GMT
I'm not sure it's a 21st century phenomenon...look at Victorian Britain. The licensing laws were brought in in the early part of the 20th century to stop people drinking all day and not working.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2009 19:09:10 GMT
i wish they still done a gin palace like what they have in the drawings of hogarth- fuck me them were the days ~GRIN~ booze is fucking excellent qwuite FRANKLY.. i might build a rum paLACE. out of scotch eggs  YYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY BOOZE N SCOTCH EGGS IS THE BEST COMBINATION. AND PISTACHIOS. AND PEANUTS. N STUFF |
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Post by Flatypus on Apr 6, 2009 19:25:09 GMT
Christ! Reckon I'd need to be dosed up on rum (but make it white please) to tackle a Scotch Egg.
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Post by motorist on Apr 6, 2009 19:31:15 GMT
Scotch eggs are very nom |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2009 19:33:44 GMT
scOTCH EGGS Aare fucking cracking, qwuite frankly. ARW YOM A PALACE MADE OUT OF SCOTCH EGGS WOULD BE AMAZING WE COULD SLOWLY CONSUME THE ENTIre palace, pop an egg out of the wall when hungry n stuff and pour eggs and rum down our throats and have a bit of merry catastrophe n stuff |
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Post by motorist on Apr 6, 2009 19:36:18 GMT
It would be like a giant game of Jenga, where you try to nom the scotch eggs without the rest of the building collapsing |
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Post by Coffeepot on Apr 6, 2009 19:37:37 GMT
I'm not sure it's a 21st century phenomenon...look at Victorian Britain. The licensing laws were brought in in the early part of the 20th century to stop people drinking all day and not working. My Great Grandad was a miner, they used to leave the pit and go straight to the pub. They'd stay and drink until a family member fetched them home for their meal - no-one really wanted to go in and get them! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2009 19:43:12 GMT
It would be like a giant game of Jenga, where you try to nom the scotch eggs without the rest of the building collapsing ..even if it did go n collapse on us it would be a good way to go.. death by scotch eggs whilst smashed to pieces on rum. its all i ever wanted. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2009 19:44:35 GMT
coffeeepot, was your grandad a scotch egg miner? that would be my dream job cept i reckon i would all the eggs what i harvested. |
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