Tesco etc will benefit most from alcohol pricing.

[bonbonlarue]

LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY I SHALL SAY THIS ONLY ONCE...[today, anyway.. ]

Managed pubs [i.e. brewery run] can afford to be cheaper because the beer costs pennies to produce and is supplied at cost to the house.

Tenanted houses are either:
A/ Leased out by the brewery or
B/ Leased out by a pub company owned by the brewery..or
C/ Leased out at a peppercorn rent to a pub company on the condition that the house is supplied exclusively by the brewer. [Profit is made by high rents to the tenant and barrelage incentives]


POINT: The brewer sells his beer no matter what.

In both cases the tenant is tied to buying the brewery's beer at a price set by the brewer.


POINT: The brewer sells his beer no matter what.



Supermarkets: Where do you think they get the beer from?

POINT: The brewer sells his beer no matter what.

Any questions?

[aubrey]

The only people who buy ultra cheap or ultra strong booze are teenagers and alcos IMO - I mean who here actually likes the taste of "Carlsberg Special Brew", "Tenants Super" or their super strength equivalents? You only buy that stuff to get "rat-arsed-on-a-budget" when you are young.

I had a period of sipping at a can of strong lager through the evening, with a couple of spliffs. It's the only lager I can drink - at least it tastes of something (I can't drink cold lager, so I had these at normal beer temperature. I think normal lager would have a distinct pissy taste if you tried drinking it like that).

I think cheap whisky (the type I usually drink) would go up if there is a minimum alcohol price.

[housesparrow]

When we first got married we used to go down to our local to meet other locals. It had been a thriving pub for passing trade on the old A24 but the by-pass put an end to that. It was privately owned so no brewery to muck about with the excellent division between the lounge (for meals and non-locals) and the public bar where conversation would stop if a stranger walked in.
The landlord was okay about under 18s coming in for a game of pool if they stuck to soft drinks .

[housesparrow]

Oh dearie dear. Since posting that last musing I decided to gogle the pub. It lives, but it is not was we knew it. Here is one of the comments I found:

I got a shock! I had not been in the former Coach and Horses since it was a typical village local, with Public and Lounge bars, and a menu specialising in curries! The new Coach has been greatly changed inside to 'Contemporary comfortable' decor, and fancies itself as a restaurant/hostelry for the yuppie class. This is clear from the prices it charges - beer at £3.20/pint, crisps at 90p/packet (organic and tasteless), and sandwiches starting at £4.95! Thank God I never got to see the restaurant prices - I might have had heart failure. There is an uninteresting selection of real ales: Greene King IPA, Morlands Speckled Hen, and West Berks Good Old Boy (which I tried, and was of very indifferent quality). While I was in there a woman came in and complained about the fish and chip meal they had there last time - "all wet and soggy". Could the staff assure her that it would be better this time? The staff - all three of them, I estimate, in their twenties - seemed quite unconcerned, but eventually responded to her attempts for reassurance by rather unconvincingly agreeing with her that yes, it would be better, which is obviously what she wanted to hear. Why she came back to that place astonishes me! And how long they expect to survive in that backwater serving inferior food and beer at central London prices is also a conundrum.

[Patrick]

I vaguely recall a nice simple piece from a couple of years ago in the Independent...... Ah - Found it

I especially like this bit:

But perhaps the clincher is that we seem to be drinking less overall, not just in pubs but everywhere from the park bench to the House of Commons. Although the Office for National Statistics cannot be sure that people are being truthful about how much they say they drink, it thinks alcohol consumption peaked in 2000 and has fallen every year since. According to the BBPA, average consumption is down 15 per cent on 2000.

Because that goes hand in hand with the article I read a few months back that pointed out that contrary to the Government's dire warnings about our alcohol consumption levels - we are still drinking less. Which hardly makes the constant drip, drip of anti drink propaganda that has been 'upped' in recent years necessary.

The bottom line is - it's easier to gather money in from the leases on Old Folks homes and flats and shopping centres - so even in the property downturn I know of two hotels (for instance) that are being or are about to be bulldozed by the brewery that owns them to become thus.

[housesparrow]

What I really object to is the price of soft drinks in pubs. I once bought a round where a glass of orange and tonic was more than my half pint of best bitter.

[Weyland]

Sept 29, 2010 18:57:17 GMT housesparrow said:

What I really object to is the price of soft drinks in pubs. I once bought a round where a glass of orange and tonic was more than my half pint of best bitter.

Orange and tonic? They'd have to pay me.

[Deleted]

that does sound rather qwuoite ghastly, to be honest. (tbh)

[housesparrow]

It may have been grapefruit and tonic - either way it is quite a refreshing drink, because the tonic takes some of the sweetness from the orange. But although it uses only one glass, the whole thing costs the same as two soft drinks.