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Post by everso on Feb 16, 2011 10:33:13 GMT
Just listening to Marianne Faithfull on Woman's Hour, singing her latest song, it amazes me how some people manage to attain what they now call "celebrity" status. She was, frankly, a crap singer in the 60s (and you can believe me on that because I saw her live). She's now even worse, and a warning to any aspiring singer to stop smoking if you want a decent voice when you're old. (Having said that, Nat King Cole was a heavy smoker and had a wonderful voice, but then he died in his forties of lung cancer.
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Post by trubble on Feb 16, 2011 16:27:16 GMT
I can take or leave her but I usually leave her. I suppose she is 'celebrity status' because she's part of the rock and roll sixties nostalgia chapter.
CV:
Was Sexy, Dated a Rolling Stone and took loads of Drugs. Sex and Drugs and Rock'n'Roll.
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Post by everso on Feb 16, 2011 19:15:16 GMT
I especially never liked her after the Mars Bar incident.
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Post by motorist on Feb 16, 2011 19:50:44 GMT
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Post by Weyland on Feb 16, 2011 20:13:57 GMT
Oh. Cadbury's Flake then, was it? You know -- 6 ..er.. 99. . . . I'll get me leathers. |
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Post by everso on Feb 17, 2011 17:40:36 GMT
Yeah, I always thought of her as a rocker gal.
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Post by everso on Feb 17, 2011 17:43:51 GMT
Well, I like to think it did.  |
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Post by aubrey on Feb 17, 2011 18:25:38 GMT
So do I.  But it sounds like a story made up by someone wanting it to be true, like the alternate dirty words that the FBI concocted for "Louie Louie" (And which Iggy Pop sang many years later). The truth can never be as lurid as a puritan's fantasy. |
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Post by everso on Feb 17, 2011 18:28:04 GMT
Actually, Aubs, how do we know whether Miss Faithfull is telling the truth? I mean, to paraphrase another girl of dubious character: "She would say that, wouldn't she?"
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Post by aubrey on Feb 17, 2011 18:30:38 GMT
I don't know - she might not. It didn't harm her reputation, did it?
And the police do have a habit of making up and leaking stories about people they arrest.
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Post by aubrey on Feb 17, 2011 18:33:59 GMT
I've got nothing against her. Being able to sing doesn't matter much in pop music anyway.
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Post by everso on Feb 17, 2011 18:45:27 GMT
True. But if you're going to have people who can't sing, at least give the young ones a chance. These old sixties singers and groups don't weather so well now that they're getting on a bit. They were great in their day when they were young (Marianne Faithfull excepted, imho) but it always makes me feel sad when I see them still keeping going. (Even Ray)
If I want to listen to sixties music (which I do), I play my CDs of the original recordings.
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Post by Weyland on Feb 17, 2011 18:53:49 GMT
If I want to listen to sixties music (which I do), I play my CDs of the original recordings. Including the compilation I gave you? |
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Post by Weyland on Feb 17, 2011 19:25:36 GMT
These old sixties singers and groups don't weather so well now that they're getting on a bit. How true. Peter Green, the greatest R&B guitarist in the history of the Universe. In between he's been mentally ill, got religion, and a mix of the two. (His skill hasn't diminished.)   1968 Last year (I don't mean what they call R&B these days, which is like a mix of Soul and Shyte. And by a strange coincidence that matches exactly what has happened to the Fleetwood Mac brand -- from 60s Blues to Post-Modern Bubblegum. It's a feckin' scandal.) |
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Post by everso on Feb 18, 2011 0:12:33 GMT
If I want to listen to sixties music (which I do), I play my CDs of the original recordings. Including the compilation I gave you? Yes, I played it just the other day on my way home from Romford. |
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Post by aubrey on Feb 18, 2011 11:29:41 GMT
Zappa was reworking his 60's songs on his last tour. He'd even get the group to play around the mistakes on the original version. The later versions of Trouble Every day were better than the 60s version (I think you'll probably be able to check this on Youtube); he also rewrote the lyrics of Dickie's such an arsehole to include Reagan and some of his policies.
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