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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 4, 2010 19:23:08 GMT
But I'm really glad your last breast scan was clear too.
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Post by housesparrow on Jul 4, 2010 20:08:02 GMT
yes, I had another look at it and see what you mean. I was looking on the laptop with the window behind me!
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Post by housesparrow on Jul 4, 2010 20:17:54 GMT
Very different doctors from Rembrandt's, aren't they?  |
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 4, 2010 20:21:30 GMT
Nice one Housey.
Tell me why is it that Rembrandt is a genius?
I mean, I really like some paintings, but I don't understand art at all. I like that painting, but I want someone more art-educated than me to explain what it is that's good about it.
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Post by housesparrow on Jul 4, 2010 20:29:15 GMT
You are asking the wrong person!
I suppose you have to look at his work in the context of other stuff being churned out nearly 300 years ago - he wasn't the only one clever with light 'n stuff, but the humanity behind his portraits was perhaps special.
Anyone else?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2010 22:31:42 GMT
But I kind of think I should go and do an 'art' course somewhere so that I have the right words to explain why I thhink a painting is good or what. hEEEYAAAA RRGHH riot.. i done a degree in art and design and believe me you do not need to do a course to talk about whaty you like about art. Mostly, art people are yesss they really really are full of shit. the best thing you can ever do is to say honestly, hand on heart, what you think about about what you are looking at. honesty really is the best policy.  |
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Post by Patrick on Jul 4, 2010 22:57:12 GMT
But I kind of think I should go and do an 'art' course somewhere so that I have the right words to explain why I thhink a painting is good or what. hEEEYAAAA RRGHH riot.. i done a degree in art and design and believe me you do not need to do a course to talk about whaty you like about art. Mostly, art people are yesss they really really are full of shit. the best thing you can ever do is to say honestly, hand on heart, what you think about about what you are looking at. honesty really is the best policy. 100% agreement. I'm just a humble A level Art holder, but if you can say what you see, and you like what you see then that is the whole enjoyment of it. It's a bit like being in love. The best bit of being in love is the part where you are just enjoying each other's company and there are no hang ups and no great feeling of responsibility. The bad part of being in love is when you start analysing the relationship - If you start doing that then there's something wrong. So. Liking or loving a painting should be exactly like the first part - that overwhelming feeling of love - or any other emotion you care to feel - without the "hang ups" - or over analysis. Except for when you've bought the painting and need something to hang it up with! ;D |
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Post by everso on Jul 5, 2010 0:07:41 GMT
I agree. You don't need special words to discuss art. I always go by a feeling I get - can't really describe it.
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Post by housesparrow on Jul 5, 2010 6:00:09 GMT
Our local WEA runs (or used to run) Saturday lectures focusing on one or another of the classical painters. It helped me understand the genius behind a great painting - the artist in context; how his work developed , why he differed from others around at the time. There are of course TV programmes that do much the same but somehw I always miss them.
Our local gallery shows a lot of Southern Arts Council stuff and which always leave me bemused. Perhaps I ought to go to some of the artists' talks to try to understand them.
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Post by Weyland on Jul 5, 2010 8:01:24 GMT
I agree. You don't need special words to discuss art. I always go by a feeling I get - can't really describe it. Me too. But for me there has to be skill involved, otherwise all bets are off. That's why I took to Rembrandt van Rijn and other Golden Age Dutch painters, and Maurits Escher, and Salvador Dali in the first place. And knowing about their lives and where they lived and worked means a lot to me. The more background you know, the more the enjoyment, I find, but first impressions are key. Can't stand Hurst, Mondriaan, Rothko, Pollock, and the like. Emin has skill, but doesn't make much of it, imho. I also love Giuseppe Arcimboldo, and drove to a castle in Sweden to see two of his pictures. Fascinating life he had, involved with Milan Cathedral, the Holy Roman Emperor in Prague, and the Thirty Years War -- which is why the pics ended up in Sweden. [/ramble] Forgot to mention a recent favourite -- Glenn Brown. Saw an exhibition at Tate Liverpool last year. ~ ~ ~ Welcome back, Costy! You owe me money! No . . . wait . . . I owe you a pint of Guinness. Yes, that's it. But you're welcome just the same. |
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Post by everso on Jul 5, 2010 13:33:41 GMT
I agree. You don't need special words to discuss art. I always go by a feeling I get - can't really describe it. Me too. But for me there has to be skill involved, otherwise all bets are off. That's why I took to Rembrandt van Rijn and other Golden Age Dutch painters, and Maurits Escher, and Salvador Dali in the first place. And knowing about their lives and where they lived and worked means a lot to me. The more background you know, the more the enjoyment, I find, but first impressions are key. Can't stand Hurst, Mondriaan, Rothko, Pollock, and the like. Emin has skill, but doesn't make much of it, imho. I also love Giuseppe Arcimboldo, and drove to a castle in Sweden to see two of his pictures. Fascinating life he had, involved with Milan Cathedral, the Holy Roman Emperor in Prague, and the Thirty Years War -- which is why the pics ended up in Sweden. [/ramble] Forgot to mention a recent favourite -- Glenn Brown. Saw an exhibition at Tate Liverpool last year. ~ ~ ~ Welcome back, Costy! You owe me money! No . . . wait . . . I owe you a pint of Guinness. Yes, that's it. But you're welcome just the same. Skill, definitely, yes. I've had "discussions" with my husband and son (who I'm positive just argue to annoy me) that any fool can throw a tin of paint at a canvas and call it something, even I could do that. When I look at a painting and the skill involved almost takes my breath away, that's when I feel it's right. But then again, I'm a simple soul (with the emphasis on simple). Oh I know there are arguments for modern art and the people that put them forward are convinced they are right, but I just can't be convinced. Surely I'm not the only one to have seen the film "The Rebel" with Tony Hancock? From Galton and Simpson's screenplay wastes no opportunity to satirise the credulity of the modern-art world, and its unfailing capacity to court lucrative charlatans. |
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 5, 2010 15:08:15 GMT
 I reckon that I would have had the artistic skill to do this one. (It's Tracey Emin's bed, innit.) |
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Post by Weyland on Jul 5, 2010 15:22:44 GMT
I reckon that I would have had the artistic skill to do this one. (It's Tracey Emin's bed, innit.) Well, in a sense -- that's what she wants you to believe. In reality it was all down to the tw@t Hirst, whom she persuaded to bribe one of Saatchi's cleaners to "Just put something there, Consuela, dear -- anything will do -- it's only the Turner Prize -- no, really, anything -- really -- trust me".  The Tw@t Hirst |
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Post by Weyland on Jul 5, 2010 15:24:44 GMT
Surely I'm not the only one to have seen the film "The Rebel" with Tony Hancock? From Galton and Simpson's screenplay wastes no opportunity to satirise the credulity of the modern-art world, and its unfailing capacity to court lucrative charlatans.Too true. No, Ev, you're not the only one. |
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Post by motorist on Jul 5, 2010 16:36:06 GMT
Surely I'm not the only one to have seen the film "The Rebel" with Tony Hancock? From Galton and Simpson's screenplay wastes no opportunity to satirise the credulity of the modern-art world, and its unfailing capacity to court lucrative charlatans.Too true. No, Ev, you're not the only one. I've seen that film too  |
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Post by Weyland on Jul 5, 2010 20:34:34 GMT
Surely I'm not the only one to have seen the film "The Rebel" with Tony Hancock? From Galton and Simpson's screenplay wastes no opportunity to satirise the credulity of the modern-art world, and its unfailing capacity to court lucrative charlatans.Too true. No, Ev, you're not the only one. Talking of Hancock, and Depp, probably my favourite memory of the Lad Himself was where he was playing Robert Newton playing Long John Silver playing Hamlet. With a stuffed parrot on his shoulder, naturally. TLH: "To be or not to be, that be the question, Jim lad!" |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2010 23:40:39 GMT
i dabble in a bit of artistic endevours meself, and i have to say, there are 2 types of artist that inspire me: 1. artists who do stuff in which i see a similarity to what i do, thus having the effect of encouraging me and spurring me on, a sort of 'if they can do it, so can i' kinda inspiration.. and 2) artists who just damn well completely blow my mind with their talent and skill, artists who do stuff i could never do in a million years, and i just look on in aw and dumb-struck amazemernt. |
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