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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 11, 2009 12:10:31 GMT
A Team GB soccer side will take part in the London 2012 Olympics even if it consists entirely of English players.
The issue has become a political and sporting battleground, with the Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland football associations opposing a joint squad in case it affects the future of their independent national sides.
England sports minister Gerry Sutcliffe told MPs he wanted a team which had the "widest representation" from the UK, but it could be that only the Football Association in England would allow its players to compete.www.theherald.co.uk/display.var.2494580.0.0.php?utag=30391How dare "GB" (sic) enter an English team and call it "GB"?
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Post by trubble on Mar 11, 2009 12:17:06 GMT
What else are they to do?
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 11, 2009 12:40:05 GMT
Not compete in the football competition at the Olympics. D'oh.
Someone (I think Prem, but it sounds a bit too sensible and not WUMMy enough for him) argued that no sport which has a higher level of participation available should be at the Olympics, that if an Olympic gold medal is not the highest possible honour in a particular sport, then it shouldn't be an Olympic sport.
Given that the EFA (or just the FA as the English typically call it) KNOWS that the other home FAs in the UK do not want a "Team GB" (sic) entering the football, how DARE It just roll over the wishes of the other three FAs?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2009 13:41:31 GMT
Who cares , it's just football ?
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Post by trubble on Mar 11, 2009 13:50:03 GMT
Ban him!
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Post by motorist on Mar 11, 2009 13:51:46 GMT
Boring game *pretends there is a snoozing smiley*
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Post by trubble on Mar 11, 2009 13:57:15 GMT
Someone (I think Prem, but it sounds a bit too sensible and not WUMMy enough for him) argued that no sport which has a higher level of participation available should be at the Olympics, that if an Olympic gold medal is not the highest possible honour in a particular sport, then it shouldn't be an Olympic sport. I've been mulling that over. Who says an Olympic Gold Medal in Football is not the highest honour? Olympic medals are the highest honour in all sports aren't they? and There may be great kudos for the World Cup in male football but in women's the kudos is less. It might be good to have women competing in the sport as Team GB.
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Post by trubble on Mar 11, 2009 13:58:48 GMT
Boring game *pretends there is a snoozing smiley* All games are fun when you have something invested like national pride etc. For the first time ever I was willing Man U to win the other day. Only because my 7 year old nephew (man u fannette) was at Wembley watching and I wanted it for him so much. It made for a great game.
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Post by trubble on Mar 11, 2009 14:03:04 GMT
Boring game *pretends there is a snoozing smiley* There is a snoozing smiley, it has been there ever since the last time you made this dirty protest.
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Post by motorist on Mar 11, 2009 14:04:40 GMT
Boring game *pretends there is a snoozing smiley* There is a snoozing smiley, it has been there ever since the last time you made this dirty protest. Hurrah, positive results from my negativity
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Post by motorist on Mar 11, 2009 14:06:14 GMT
"dirty protest"? But my pants were on
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 11, 2009 14:11:24 GMT
Someone (I think Prem, but it sounds a bit too sensible and not WUMMy enough for him) argued that no sport which has a higher level of participation available should be at the Olympics, that if an Olympic gold medal is not the highest possible honour in a particular sport, then it shouldn't be an Olympic sport. I've been mulling that over. Who says an Olympic Gold Medal in Football is not the highest honour? Olympic medals are the highest honour in all sports aren't they? and There may be great kudos for the World Cup in male football but in women's the kudos is less. It might be good to have women competing in the sport as Team GB. No offence, but that's absurd. (the first part.) Nobody gives a flying feck about gold medals at football. If you're talking national teams, the highest honour is the World Cup. Football shouldn't even be in the Olympics. And putting in the English football team and calling it 'GB' (sic) is one of the stupidest and most offensive things I've heard in a long time.
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 11, 2009 14:12:40 GMT
REVISION: It's not one of the stupidest and most offensive things I've hard in a long time. What am I talking about? I read JSG! So, in the interests of accuracy, it's stupid and offensive, but not necesarily the most stupid and offensive thing I've heard in a long time.
Post in haste, revise at leisure . .
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Post by motorist on Mar 11, 2009 14:13:40 GMT
REVISION: It's not one of the stupidest and most offensive things I've hard in a long time. What am I talking about? I read JSG! So, in the interests of accuracy, it's stupid and offensive, but not necesarily the most stupid and offensive thing I've heard in a long time. Post in haste, revise at leisure . . Damn, and your mind was so close to blocking out those horrors for good
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Post by trubble on Mar 11, 2009 14:35:38 GMT
Perhaps there could be a compromise. Team GB play in the Olympics and players try out as individuals, it's put together as a team that cannot and will not ever function outside the Olympics. As there is no other time when the whole of the UK play as one side the Olympic Medal will be the highest award possible for Team GB. Why not?
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 11, 2009 14:38:50 GMT
Perhaps there could be a compromise. Team GB play in the Olympics and players try out as individuals, it's put together as a team that cannot and will not ever function outside the Olympics. As there is no other time when the whole of the UK play as one side the Olympic Medal will be the highest award possible for Team GB. Why not? Why bother? Football exists, and is very successful, without the Olympics. It has its own infrastructure and is a massive industry. The Olympics is - in my head - about track and field type events that don't have big international infrastructures and highly profitable national and international events. I feel that the 'Team GB' (sic) shite is an attempt by New Labour to try to salvage the Olympics by competing in a sport that people actually care about as nobody (apart from Rjpageuk) cares about track & field events really. And the attempt to crowbar the 4 nations into one artificial structure specially for the event remains silly and offensive, as well as unncessary. Still, I suppose I should really support the 'Team GB' (sic) football thing as it will take my nation further to its inevitable independence.
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Post by trubble on Mar 11, 2009 15:03:32 GMT
Everything's an artificial structure so that's a pointless thing to be offended about.
The four countries are already united in the kingdom, it's no biggie from a national point of view.
Sometimes Northern Ireland and Eire play sports as an island, which I find a bit funny, but hardly offensive.
Why bother with any of the sports, I suppose. Horse jumping, tennis, ice skating, they could all just do their own thing and we could get rid of the concept of the Olympics.
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Post by housesparrow on Mar 11, 2009 16:00:51 GMT
So just who is being arrogant here? If the Scottish, Welsh and NI have been invited to play and have decided to take thei balls away (so to speak) and only the English deign to play for team GB, they have eery right to call themselves a GB team, I think.
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 11, 2009 16:09:57 GMT
So just who is being arrogant here? If the Scottish, Welsh and NI have been invited to play and have decided to take thei balls away (so to speak) and only the English deign to play for team GB, they have eery right to call themselves a GB team, I think. Right. So the English FA riding rough-shod over the stated and explicit wishes of the Scottish FA, the Welsh FA and the Northern Irish FA is just fair enough and not at all arrogant. Gosh. With that kind of attitude still in existence I can't understand how we lost the empire!
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 11, 2009 16:13:29 GMT
Everything's an artificial structure so that's a pointless thing to be offended about. The four countries are already united in the kingdom, it's no biggie from a national point of view. Sometimes Northern Ireland and Eire play sports as an island, which I find a bit funny, but hardly offensive. Why bother with any of the sports, I suppose. Horse jumping, tennis, ice skating, they could all just do their own thing and we could get rid of the concept of the Olympics. Well, of course all nation states are effectively artificial structures, but given that Scotland and England, within their current borders, are perhaps the oldest two settled-bordered nation states in Europe, maybe we should just accept that Scotland is a nation and exists? No? For you to say "it's no biggie" astounds me. The importance of national football to both Scottish and English national identities is well established. And the Scottish people have been shouting for several years now that they don't want their own national football team to be subsumed into some 'Team GB' (sic) or even 'Team UK'. I'm astonished at you Trubs: You're usually the first to stick up for the rights of the underdog and the minority. But on this matter you're happy to let the fervently held views of the minority to be just ridden roughshod over in order to give Gordon Brown a happy patriotic glow.
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