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Post by riotgrrl on Dec 20, 2009 21:14:48 GMT
Holy hell, she was only 32!!! She was fabulous in '8 Mile', and I thought she was a pretty beautiful actress as they go. uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20091220/ten-reports-actress-brittany-murphy-dies-8a3eada.htmlI am watching my words carefully here in the light of the furore about tasteless remarks and dead celebrities, but I am wondering if she had an underlying health problem or if it will turn out to be another tragic and avoidable waste of a young life.
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Post by Patrick on Dec 20, 2009 22:42:23 GMT
Um. 32 - that beats Richard Beckinsale doesn't it?
I thought it was Brian Murphy until I read the age.
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Post by aubrey on Dec 21, 2009 10:35:55 GMT
I hadn't heard of her until I discovered that she was Luanne in King of the Hill - now I'm quite sad.
I don't care what she died of - already people are saying stuff about that, as if it matters.
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Post by riotgrrl on Dec 21, 2009 12:25:34 GMT
I know this is sick of me, but I am sick.
Aubrey, it does matter.
If it turns out that poor Brittany died of some underlying health problem then it's just another tragic loss of a young, talented and beautiful person.
But if it turns out Brittany was using cocaine and that contributed to her heart attack then maybe, just maybe, the fact that she is a young, hip actress might actually wake up young people to the facts about how dangerous cocaine can be. Not to mention how completely unethical it is.
I have taken a few lines in my callow youth, but then I read a bit and thought a bit, and realised how cocaine had completely ruined nations and the lives of individuals. Cocaine is one of the least ethical products on this earth. If poor Brittany's death has been caused by it, then maybe, like the death of Jade Goody, it might ultimately save other lives.
I know it's wrong to speculate like this - sorry - and I actually am very sad about this death as I did think Brittany was both beautiful and talented. She was an actress that I admired.
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Post by aubrey on Dec 21, 2009 20:59:24 GMT
Is it cocaine that has ruined countries or the prohibition of cocaine?
I've never had it, but the idea of people saying (if she did take it), well she deserved all she got, is not a nice one. They'd never say that about a young person who died in a car crash, and cars are very dangerous for young people.
(Cars have ruined countries as well, I think.)
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Post by riotgrrl on Dec 21, 2009 21:07:04 GMT
Columbia is virtually a failed nation state because of the cocaine industry, with murder and displacement commonplace in the growing industry.
It's effects on the environment are catastrophic.
Even its transportation, where methods such as concealing it in the stomachs of live dogs, who are then killed and slit open (let's hope in that order) once they reach their destination, is evil.
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Post by riotgrrl on Dec 21, 2009 21:08:55 GMT
P.S. Those who are saying that if she took cocaine she 'deserves' it should ask themselves what their daughters and sons are doing of a weekend. The increase in cocaine use among young, employed people is one of the biggest drugs stories of the past decade. Whereas it used to be the drug of celebrities and city wideboys, now it is being taken regularly by everyone from plumbers to teenagers.
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Post by aubrey on Dec 22, 2009 10:35:37 GMT
I don't want to argue with you about it, Riot, as I think we're probably closer on it than I would be with a lot of people.
I think a lot of problems would be solved - or at least helped - with drugs if the moral aspect was taken out of it - the "My drugs shame" thing, or people like Phelps having to abase himself after being pictured with a dope pipe. The idea of taking drugs in itself should not be seen as a bad thing - maybe unwise, but not bad - not something that taints the person for the rest of their life (like that bloke who was refused entry into America because ythe border guards googled his name and found him in a scientific paper saying that he had taken LSD 30 years ago).
If something is illegal it attracts gangsters - would Columbia be like it is now if coke had been legal? And if Police gangs weren't charging into slums and shooting everyone they think looks a bit dodgy, like they're in a Bruce Willis film (and they can tell themselves that they're the Goodies, as well)?
The same kind of thing is said about dope - it funds gangsters, the Taliban, Yardies, etc etc. Come to that, it's also said about videos you buy of a bloke on the market, or pirated programmes; I think it's even been said about illegal downloads. Illegally clearing forests for Palm Oil or soya for cows' food, or sweatshops making cheap clothes that employ 8-year-olds, do not come back on the buyer in the same way - IE, it's not the buyer's fault, just something that can't be helped.
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