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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2010 18:46:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2010 18:59:29 GMT
"Let me be very clear. Anyone who tells you to eat your greens is all right by me. If that was the end of it, I'd be McKeith's biggest fan, because I'm all in favour of "evidence-based interventions to improve the nation's health", as they used to say to us in medical school."
"McKeith is a menace to the public understanding of science. She seems to misunderstand not nuances, but the most basic aspects of biology - things that a 14-year-old could put her straight on.
She talks endlessly about chlorophyll, for example: how it's "high in oxygen" and will "oxygenate your blood" - but chlorophyll will only make oxygen in the presence of light. It's dark in your intestines, and even if you stuck a searchlight up your bum to prove a point, you probably wouldn't absorb much oxygen in there, because you don't have gills in your gut. In fact, neither do fish. In fact, forgive me, but I don't think you really want oxygen up there, because methane fart gas mixed with oxygen is a potentially explosive combination."
"She says DNA is an anti-ageing constituent: if you "do not have enough RNA/DNA", in fact, you "may ultimately age prematurely". Stress can deplete your DNA, but algae will increase it: and she reckons it's only present in growing cells. Is my semen growing? Is a virus growing? Is chicken liver pate growing? All of these contain plenty of DNA. She says that "each sprouting seed is packed with the nutritional energy needed to create a full-grown, healthy plant". Does a banana plant have the same amount of calories as a banana seed? The ridiculousness is endless."
".. she was censured by the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) for illegally selling a rather tragic range of herbal sex pills called Fast Formula Horny Goat Weed Complex, advertised as shown by a "controlled study" to promote sexual satisfaction, and sold with explicit medicinal claims. She was ordered to remove the products from sale immediately. She complied - the alternative would have been prosecution - but in response, McKeith's website announced that the sex pills had been withdrawn because of "the new EU licensing laws regarding herbal products". She engaged in Europhobic banter with the Scottish Herald newspaper: "EU bureaucrats are clearly concerned that people in the UK are having too much good sex," she explained.
Rubbish. I contacted the MHRA, and they said: "This has nothing to do with new EU regulations. The information on the McKeith website is incorrect." Was it a mistake? "Ms McKeith's organisation had already been made aware of the requirements of medicines legislation in previous years; there was no reason at all for all the products not to be compliant with the law." They go on. "The Wild Pink Yam and Horny Goat Weed products marketed by McKeith Research Ltd were never legal for sale in the UK."
Now, once would be unfortunate, but this is an enduring pattern. When McKeith was first caught out on the ridiculous and erroneous claims of her CV - she claimed, for example, to have a PhD from the reputable American College of Nutrition - her representatives suggested that this was a mistake, made by a Spanish work experience kid, who posted the wrong CV. Except the very same claim about the American College of Nutrition was also in one of her books from several years previously. That's a long work experience stint.
She even sneaked one into this very newspaper, during a profile on her: "Doubt has also been cast on the value of McKeith's certified membership of the American Association of Nutritional Consultants, especially since Guardian journalist Ben Goldacre managed to buy the same membership online for his dead cat for $60. McKeith's spokeswoman says of this membership: "Gillian has 'professional membership', which is membership designed for practising nutritional and dietary professionals, and is distinct from 'associate membership', which is open to all individuals. To gain professional membership Gillian provided proof of her degree and three professional references."
Well. My dead cat Hettie is also a "certified professional member" of the AANC. I have the certificate hanging in my loo. Perhaps it didn't even occur to the journalist that McKeith could be wrong. More likely, of course, in the tradition of nervous journalists, I suspect she was hurried, on deadline, and felt she had to get McKeith's "right of reply" in, even if it cast doubts on - I'll admit my beef here - my own hard-won investigative revelations about my dead cat. I mean, I don't sign my dead cat up to bogus professional organisations for the good of my health, you know."
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Post by housesparrow on Jul 17, 2010 19:04:46 GMT
Is that from your second link, Costal, - the one I couldn't get?
It used to be said that all publicity is good publicity, but I doubt if that applies today.
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 17, 2010 20:53:01 GMT
Nonetheless I plan to try out her beetroot soup recipe. I will let you know in due course how it turns out.
I remember having the most lovely pink beetroot soup in St Petersburg one day, and i'm hoping that this is what Gillian McKeith's will be like;
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2010 21:48:52 GMT
im sure her beetroot soup will be a smaash.. i was just posting some things i had been reading abourt gillian mckeith recently ( as it had arisen in conversation) i didnt have any thoughts on her one way or t'other, previously, i just thought this stuff was qwuite elightening.. i'm sure it in no way effects or indeed deminishes her abilities to knock up a cracking beetroot soup.  |
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Post by aubrey on Jul 18, 2010 9:27:57 GMT
Is that from your second link, Costal, - the one I couldn't get? It used to be said that all publicity is good publicity, but I doubt if that applies today. It's Ben Goldacre - google "Bad Science" for his site - there's a lot of really good stuff on there, not just about McKeith. |
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Post by everso on Jul 18, 2010 9:40:56 GMT
I had to withstand a very long diatribe from my brother (who's a scientist - believe it or not considering he's a relative of mine) recently on how much crap is written in the press and in magazines about so-called "science" and "health" and "alternative therapy".
I'm just saying this in case he happens to tap into the Stub and see this thread. Be warned. He'll probably sign up with us and join in this thread, and then we'll never get away.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2010 10:20:14 GMT
Is that from your second link, Costal, - the one I couldn't get? It used to be said that all publicity is good publicity, but I doubt if that applies today. It's Ben Goldacre - google "Bad Science" for his site - there's a lot of really good stuff on there, not just about McKeith. yep!  not sure why you can't open the second link Housey, it works ok for me..  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2010 11:01:21 GMT
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Post by riotgrrl on Aug 3, 2010 17:59:27 GMT
So I tried Gillian McKeith's beetroot soup recipe tonight.
Ladies & Laddies, it was rank. Not nice. I mean, the beetroot part was fine - I like Borscht - but, as Gothboy says, I could jsut have served hot beetroot juice for that. The rest - some sweet potato cubes, dill, cucumber to relish - was relatively minging.
Do not recommend.
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Post by everso on Aug 3, 2010 19:08:52 GMT
What a bummer, Riot! It's so bloody annoying when you spend time chopping up veg and all that stuff, and all the frigging about, only to have to say "should have opened a tin".
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Post by revisedartlily on Aug 13, 2010 11:10:11 GMT
I guess to be fair, she isnt coming at this from a "yum" angle, it's about 'elf. So when she says "eat boiled dandelion" she probably knows she isnt going to get any Michelin awards.
I owe her a great debt actually, for the following, which I can thoroughly recommend. PASSIONFLOWER TEA. No, it does not make you hot to trot. It chills you out big time. It craps all over chamomile for an anti anxiety thing. If I drink it at bed time or just before an afternoon nana nap, I sleep like a baby.
You need to buy proper therapeutic quality though. No "homebrand" or "savings" brand.....
I get something called "Hilde Hermes" from the elf food shop. I often announce, "I am just going to have some of that herpes tea". it is expensive, maybe 10 bucks for a box but bloody worf it.
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Post by stephan on Aug 13, 2010 11:23:47 GMT
It`s all twaddle-just goes to show how gullible some folks are and the power of a good agent.
Reminds me of Susie Orbach back in the late 70`s
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Post by alanseago on Aug 13, 2010 12:32:58 GMT
If you seek an effective nap-starter, one or two glasses of red wine with lunch is perfect.
It is 2-30 here so I may be absent for a little while.
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Post by Patrick on Aug 13, 2010 12:34:42 GMT
It`s all twaddle-just goes to show how gullible some folks are and the power of a good agent. Reminds me of Susie Orbach back in the late 70`s Susie Orbach? Didn't she invent a vacuum cleaner? Robert Carrier was another overblown cook. Mum collected his partworks years ago but there was some really rubbish stuff in there. |
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Post by alanseago on Aug 13, 2010 12:37:43 GMT
There am I thinking that Susie Orbach is a sequel to Hello Dolly!
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Post by Weyland on Aug 13, 2010 13:01:13 GMT
There am I thinking that Susie Orbach is a sequel to Hello Dolly! Never mind that -- Helen Shapiro's just been on Feedback on R4! I'm in love all over again. (I was first in love with her in 1961.) |
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Post by philippa on Aug 13, 2010 13:47:58 GMT
<< Helen Shapiro's just been on Feedback on R4! I'm in love all over again>>
ahh, you're walking back to happiness, Weyland.
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Post by Weyland on Aug 13, 2010 16:40:11 GMT
<< Helen Shapiro's just been on Feedback on R4! I'm in love all over again>> ahh, you're walking back to happiness, Weyland. Brilliant! I'm in love with Pippa now.   |
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Post by everso on Aug 13, 2010 17:38:08 GMT
<< Helen Shapiro's just been on Feedback on R4! I'm in love all over again>> ahh, you're walking back to happiness, Weyland. Whoompa oh yeah yeah!  |
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