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Post by everso on Dec 7, 2010 15:38:31 GMT
Does anyone feel silly when they hear all those kids calling Alan Sugar "Lord". I mean to say. What was all that about then? Lord Sugar! Maybe if he'd have lived long enough they'd have made Sid James a Lord too.
Sid James was Alan Sugar's dad, wasn't he?
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Post by trubble on Dec 7, 2010 15:39:05 GMT
LOL!
Yes, the Lord bit is annoying.
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Post by riotgrrl on Dec 8, 2010 22:32:38 GMT
Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable.
It seems that it's ok to discriminate against the beautiful and talented.
(Although I will admit to a softening of my attitude to Stella, who was at least a bit game tonight.)
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Post by Weyland on Dec 8, 2010 22:48:53 GMT
Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. It seems that it's ok to discriminate against the beautiful and talented. (Although I will admit to a softening of my attitude to Stella, who was at least a bit game tonight.) The only fair verdict tonight would've been to sack the lot and start again from scratch. Liz was far and away the best that was left, but that's not saying much. The "Investment Banker" on the winning team is one of the worst contestants they've ever had. There's something seriously wrong with the set tasks. |
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Post by swl on Dec 8, 2010 22:52:11 GMT
Funnily enough, I was thinking about people like Stella today. We recruited 8 new managers for a new tier of mgt in my org. I was not involved in the recruitment, but my colleague who recruited them is one of these bland say-nothing-in-case-you-say-something-wrong types, and he has appointed in his own image. So now we have these 8 bland robots walking about - I wouldn't give you a fig for any of them. The people who come to work with passion in their hearts for their job, some of whom can come over as eccentric, they're the ones I like to work with. . Oi !! Why wasn't I called for interview?  |
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Post by riotgrrl on Dec 8, 2010 22:53:56 GMT
Assume you're talking about what I'm talking about, I had nothing to do with recent recruitment processes so cannot answer that question. If I had had, I wouldn't answer it online anyway.  |
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Post by riotgrrl on Dec 8, 2010 22:57:19 GMT
Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. It seems that it's ok to discriminate against the beautiful and talented. (Although I will admit to a softening of my attitude to Stella, who was at least a bit game tonight.) The only fair verdict tonight would've been to sack the lot and start again from scratch. Liz was far and away the best that was left, but that's not saying much. The "Investment Banker" on the winning team is one of the worst contestants they've ever had. There's something seriously wrong with the set tasks. I don't think I have a favourite going into the interview. Maybe Stella - she really did show a slightly warmer/funnier side tonight and came over as quite leftfield and wonky. I can't remember any of the boys' names except Stuart (who I am assuming we all despise), but maybe the handsome one who did the tour guide bit tonight? Apart from that . . no. But who do you think will be caught out at interview? All of them? None of them? There were rumours in the tabloids (were there not) that Stella was actually a lowly admin assistant (or similar) who had told fibs to get into the process. And surelyl Stuart's stories cannot be true? |
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Post by swl on Dec 8, 2010 23:00:37 GMT
I watch the Apprentice avidly - partly because I'm a salesman and so many of the tasks are sales orientated.
The first thing to bear in mind is those 16 are not the "brightest & best", they're selected for the ratings. A bit like Big Brother filling the house with weirdos.
Also, having been on the receiving end of a heavily edited fly on the wall BBC documentary, I know that what we see is a nonsense. Basically, they film all week then when they know who's been fired and who the final 3 were in the boardroom, they put a programme together telling the story of how those 3 got there.
I found it interesting to discover last week that none of the other contestants liked Stella and it made me look at her in a new light. I think she's the cold-hearted bitch that could out-freeze the witch in Narnia. The black girl is a horror, Stuart is a joke, the investment banker is surely Tim "Nice but Dim"?
The only one with quality left imo is the other guy, whose name escapes me.
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Post by housesparrow on Dec 9, 2010 7:41:11 GMT
Jamie? Yes, he is good. From what I see of her, Stella is good too; she comes across as a person with integrity. So did Liz, she is not only brilliant but seems very nice. I hope she lands something much better than as Sugar's apprentice
As for Stuart - Alan Sugar said that in future years he will look at the footage and cringe: I do hope so, otherwise he will grow into a real weirdo. I thought it was pretty cruel to "give him another chance" : what that means is putting him before an interview panel which will make mincemeat of him. It confirms SWL's view that candidates are selected for the ratings; we all want to know if the story of him coming up from nowhere is true.
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Post by swl on Dec 9, 2010 12:59:28 GMT
I thought it was unfair that Joanna was criticised for trying to renegotiate the deal with the ticketing agency whilst nothing was said about Stuart's mindblowingly childish behaviour. Trying to poach customers, denigrating the other team publically, displaying utter contempt for tourists in general. If he was to do any of that for one of Sugar's companies it would be a massive PR disaster.
Incidentally, I don't think it was a "shrewd business move" by Chris to negotiate 20% with the ticketing agency. I think he totally screwed up and didn't understand what he was saying.
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Post by riotgrrl on Dec 9, 2010 13:08:30 GMT
I thought it was unfair that Joanna was criticised for trying to renegotiate the deal with the ticketing agency whilst nothing was said about Stuart's mindblowingly childish behaviour. Trying to poach customers, denigrating the other team publically, displaying utter contempt for tourists in general. If he was to do any of that for one of Sugar's companies it would be a massive PR disaster. Incidentally, I don't think it was a "shrewd business move" by Chris to negotiate 20% with the ticketing agency. I think he totally screwed up and didn't understand what he was saying. I totally agree with you that Chris screwed up, and it was just luck that it worked out OK for the team. But I disagree that Joanna was wrongly criticised. She's a dreadful person. She confuses baracking and bullying and grinding people down with being a tough businessperson. I am still gobsmacked that Sugar fell for Stuart's nonsense. It was unbelievable. 'Harness Me' indeed. |
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Post by Weyland on Dec 9, 2010 13:09:25 GMT
I thought it was unfair that Joanna was criticised for trying to renegotiate the deal with the ticketing agency whilst nothing was said about Stuart's mindblowingly childish behaviour. Trying to poach customers, denigrating the other team publically, displaying utter contempt for tourists in general. If he was to do any of that for one of Sugar's companies it would be a massive PR disaster. Yes. They're obviously keeping him in to make next week's episode as hilarious as possible. Agreed. He's a nasty piece of work in any case, and a liar, and thick with it. |
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Post by swl on Dec 9, 2010 13:17:57 GMT
I suppose one way of looking at it is, which one would you trust to run your wedding? Joanna would be haranguing the Vicar during the vows. Stuart would be grabbing folk from the Mosque saying "Come to this church, it's so much better than that smelly mosque" Chris would make sure there was a first class malt available at the bar but he'd forget to order a cake. Stella would have everything running smoothly, uneventfully and quite boringly. Jamie would make it all work well and he'd remember to make sure everyone enjoyed themselves. just my opinion. Of course I now expect Jamie to make a total arse of the interviews  |
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Post by trubble on Dec 9, 2010 13:47:38 GMT
 But seriously, Stella herself might not be fascinating at your wedding but there's nothing to suggest the wedding would be boring! Gordon Ramsey would be doing the catering for a start.. And Jamie, well... your wedding would be fine and fun with a few hiccups such as the band starting late and the toasts being done in the wrong order and the rooms double booked but somehow you'd forgive him, the cheeky monkey. Jamie came out very well in last night's programme. Obviously Sralan likes him or he wouldn't have let Chauvinist-Chris take the bullet for Jamie's mistake the other week. But where's his genius? After Liz's exit - I was as shocked as she was - who knows what Sralan's thinking is. Posh Chris probably.
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Post by trubble on Dec 9, 2010 13:48:17 GMT
I thought it was unfair that Joanna was criticised for trying to renegotiate the deal with the ticketing agency whilst nothing was said about Stuart's mindblowingly childish behaviour. Trying to poach customers, denigrating the other team publically, displaying utter contempt for tourists in general. If he was to do any of that for one of Sugar's companies it would be a massive PR disaster. Incidentally, I don't think it was a "shrewd business move" by Chris to negotiate 20% with the ticketing agency. I think he totally screwed up and didn't understand what he was saying. Spot on. You're hired. |
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Post by trubble on Dec 9, 2010 13:52:45 GMT
I thought it was unfair that Joanna was criticised for trying to renegotiate the deal with the ticketing agency whilst nothing was said about Stuart's mindblowingly childish behaviour.... But I disagree that Joanna was wrongly criticised. She's a dreadful person. She confuses baracking and bullying and grinding people down with being a tough businessperson. Two different issues shurely? |
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Post by everso on Dec 9, 2010 19:17:17 GMT
Goddam, I missed it! I don't like the programme, but I would have watched it.
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Post by swl on Dec 15, 2010 22:06:38 GMT
What a brilliant episode. Stuart crashed and burned in spectacular style and I was cheering as Sugar fired him. Jamie sort of fizzled out. Chris presented well at interview but I can't help but think he's been extremely lucky in the practical side. Joanna did well and at least left with dignity. Stella was solid and impressive. I really enjoyed that. ;D |
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Post by Weyland on Dec 15, 2010 23:10:05 GMT
What a brilliant episode. Stuart crashed and burned in spectacular style and I was cheering as Sugar fired him. Jamie sort of fizzled out. Chris presented well at interview but I can't help but think he's been extremely lucky in the practical side. Joanna did well and at least left with dignity. Stella was solid and impressive. I really enjoyed that. ;D Chris is a pompous lying tosser and a failed <hawk> investment banker at that, who is clever in the same way Blair is clever. Repulsive. Jamie's pretty much a child of Thatcher: knows nowt in general, and especially nowt about any actual work, expects to make money-for-nothing regardless. It should've been the two women in the final. Stella will win, otherwise the end of the world is nigh. Trouble is, we already know that Sugar's judgement is highly suspect -- see below. Baggs got off far too lightly, and he should never have been in the contest at all in any case. Manx knob. |
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Post by everso on Dec 16, 2010 1:59:34 GMT
Missed it again! I was too busy dancing the night away to "Love Shack" |
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