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Jan 9, 2011 14:07:10 GMT
Post by Weyland on Jan 9, 2011 14:07:10 GMT
(Maybe that should be FGS.)
Hours and hours and hours of bloody Bible-reading on R4 today. It should have been limited to half an hour at most, out of the way on Something Understood, for instance. And even then only on R4 LW, the irrelevant boring obsessions niche channel.
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Jan 9, 2011 14:43:41 GMT
Post by Patrick on Jan 9, 2011 14:43:41 GMT
Be nice if they balanced it out with a bit of Paganism and presenter burning. I think this theme will be going on all week. I take it it's an anniversary of the publication of the King James bible or something. To me it's fundamentally wrong that religious texts should be treated with such...... er.... reverence? Surely it would be better to treat religion in the same way they do political parties in the weeks leading up to an election - if you talk about one, you have to balance it out with an example of the rest - Which of course would take up far too much time and they'd have to not bother at all! Sorted.
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Jan 9, 2011 15:09:36 GMT
Post by Weyland on Jan 9, 2011 15:09:36 GMT
Surely it would be better to treat religion in the same way they do political parties in the weeks leading up to an election - if you talk about one, you have to balance it out with an example of the rest - Which of course would take up far too much time and they'd have to not bother at all! Sorted. Brilliant, Pat! A self-correcting fail-safe common-sense ordinance. Doesn't stand a chance, of course, not with the current CofE junta in power. PATRICK FOR PM!
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Jan 9, 2011 18:17:50 GMT
Post by housesparrow on Jan 9, 2011 18:17:50 GMT
There was quite an interesting discussion on the polictical bias of the King James version.
But our bible studies teacher at school used to tell we stroppy heathens "If you don't believe in God, treat it as literature". And the poetry of the old bible allows us to do just that.
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Jan 9, 2011 18:27:19 GMT
Post by Weyland on Jan 9, 2011 18:27:19 GMT
If you don't believe in God, treat it as literature". And the poetry of the old bible allows us to do just that. True enough, but highjacking a major slice of R4 for something so easily accessible to anyone who wants to read or listen, online as well, plus eBooks, is just not on. Damn them all to Hell.
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Jan 9, 2011 18:58:31 GMT
Post by housesparrow on Jan 9, 2011 18:58:31 GMT
I don't agree. Radio 4 often has themes, and if this marks some anniversary, why not?
If my memory serves me right, Richard Dawkins has been heard defending the teaching of the bible, because it is so important in shaping our culture. I'm hugely grateful for my grounding in basic bible studies; without that knowledge I'd never be able to argue about it.
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Jan 9, 2011 19:17:53 GMT
Post by Weyland on Jan 9, 2011 19:17:53 GMT
I don't agree. Radio 4 often has themes, and if this marks some anniversary, why not? OK. An hour or two. It's of no particular importance these days. Certainly no more important than the anniversary of say, the invention of pilsener beer. Agreed, but we don't need to listen to it at all hours of the day and night on the BBC's principal spoken-word channel. That's not going to teach anyone anything except that the Church -- a tiny minority -- has far too much influence. It reminds me of the media glut of Diana's funeral again.
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Jan 9, 2011 23:24:02 GMT
Post by jean on Jan 9, 2011 23:24:02 GMT
It's beautiful. Leave it alone.
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Jan 9, 2011 23:43:48 GMT
Post by everso on Jan 9, 2011 23:43:48 GMT
Funny thing. We were over Mr. E's mum's today and I noticed a book of bible stories on her hall table. When I asked her she said a lady had called (Jehovah's Witness) and left it, saying she'd return for the money later (trusting, if nothing else). Anyway, I flicked through it and it occurred to me that even though I'm a non-believer, I always enjoyed bible stories, and there's something about listening to them that's sort of settling.
So, as Christianity is, I suppose, still this country's official religion, I'm inclined to agree with Jean.
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Jan 10, 2011 10:40:58 GMT
Post by Weyland on Jan 10, 2011 10:40:58 GMT
It's beautiful. Leave it alone. Yes, indeed. Leave it alone. Like the Book of Kells and the Lindisfarne Gospels. Historical documents, works of art, and lovely to look at occasionally. (I prefer Douai in any case. )
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Aug 25, 2011 10:00:41 GMT
Post by Weyland on Aug 25, 2011 10:00:41 GMT
A "chief economist at a city bank" heard on Today yesterday:
"Quantitative Easing is the only carrot in a sea of floods."
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A bloke talking about commyeeni'ees just now on FiveLive:
"We need to commyeenikye wiff vuh disinfected yoof."
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Where's that death penalty petition site again?
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Aug 25, 2011 18:53:32 GMT
Post by everso on Aug 25, 2011 18:53:32 GMT
Getting back to the bible theme, a funny thing happened to me a couple of months ago - I forgot to mention it on here.
I'd been having a sort out and came across a bible that my aunt gave to me when I was a child. Apart from using it to press flowers in, I'd never used it (being a non-believer) and decided to donate it to a local charity shop.
Blow me down, just a few days later I had an email from somebody who'd come across my family history website and who had inherited a family bible that actually belongs to my family. He asked if I would like it (it contains information that family historians hear about but don't often see) so what could I say? He sent me a photo of it and it's a damn great thing with metal fasteners, the lot! So, I've traded in a small, conveniently sized bible and have acquired one four times bigger.
It's left me wondering if someone somewhere didn't want me to be without a bible!
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Aug 25, 2011 19:31:06 GMT
Post by Weyland on Aug 25, 2011 19:31:06 GMT
It's left me wondering if someone somewhere didn't want me to be without a bible! Of course. Your Guardian Angel.
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Aug 25, 2011 21:43:18 GMT
Post by aubrey on Aug 25, 2011 21:43:18 GMT
Our lass had a lot of trouble getting her family bible off some distant relations who had been lent it after someone had died: she wanted it for the family stuff in the end papers.
'Nathaniel Ager is my name and England is my nation,
Seaburgh is my dwelling-place and Christ is my Salvation,
When I am dead and in my Grave, and all my bones are rotton,
I hope the lord will think on me when I am quite forgotton.' ...that sort of thing.
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Aug 25, 2011 23:29:45 GMT
Post by Patrick on Aug 25, 2011 23:29:45 GMT
I've got a late Victorian Bible upstairs. It used to have the name of my Great Aunt (or whatever my Granny's Sister would be called) in the frontispiece. Trouble is, over the years the front cover's fallen off and taken those two pages with it. #bitoftriviaforyou
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Aug 26, 2011 12:27:33 GMT
Post by Weyland on Aug 26, 2011 12:27:33 GMT
(or whatever my Granny's Sister would be called) Mine was called Bella, and her husband was Great Uncle Eb. I was ushered into the presence when I was about 6. I can remember a very old lady all in black and a tall, very thin, boney man. I was (unjustifiably) terrified. When I eventually started reading Dickens, I immediately associated Uncle Eb with Ebenezer Scrooge, and have done ever since. You and Mrs P up for a Liverpool Meet, Patrick? There's been talk of one.
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