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Post by riotgrrl on May 26, 2011 6:50:38 GMT
Propaganda + Peasant society with a limited middle class = bad news.
Alas poor Serbia . . .
Of course, the history of the media in Serbia during Milosevic is an interesting one because of B92, the independent radio station run by students and young pepole and radicals in Belgrade. There's even a book about it (called, I think, This Is Serbia Calling).
You'd be interested in it Patrick with your background in local radio. It's a tale of media and power.
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Post by Patrick on May 26, 2011 12:38:14 GMT
I shall look that up. Ta.
How odd that this should pop up in the news and now we have today's latest about Ratko Mladic! You wait ages for a Serbian story then two come along in as many days!
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Post by jean on May 26, 2011 13:13:41 GMT
Indeed. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13561407I'm waiting for Riot to tell me what to think about it. (I remember some time ago asking Riot what we should have done in Bosnia, and she replied with a list of what we shouldn't have done, and I meant to say 'Yes, but...' and repeat my question, but I never did. Is the answer 'Nothing'?)
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Post by riotgrrl on May 26, 2011 14:21:07 GMT
Indeed. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13561407I'm waiting for Riot to tell me what to think about it. (I remember some time ago asking Riot what we should have done in Bosnia, and she replied with a list of what we shouldn't have done, and I meant to say 'Yes, but...' and repeat my question, but I never did. Is the answer 'Nothing'?) At last Mladic is arrested; this will help in the longer term rehabilitation of the Serbs and Serbia. What should "we" have done in Bosnia? How about we had gone in earlier and taken out with strategic strikes those Bosnian Serb army posts that were targetting civilians, such as when Sarajevo was under siege. NATO could have ended the siege of Sarajevo in a week - instead it lasted for nearly four years before NATO did that. In the meantime, ineffectual UN 'policing' meant the Bosnian Serbs were free to carry out the most horrible of war crimes wtih apparent impunity. THEY got the message that NATO wasn't going to intervene, and behaved accordingly. Then, to 'make up for it', we bombed Belgrade for no apparent reason, something which Alex Salmond described at the time as 'folly', remarks which nearl cost him his career. He was, of course, right and his career seems to be back on track.
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Post by riotgrrl on May 26, 2011 14:22:13 GMT
I shall look that up. Ta. How odd that this should pop up in the news and now we have today's latest about Ratko Mladic! You wait ages for a Serbian story then two come along in as many days! It's cause they know I'm going to Bosnia in a few weeks. They're fixing it all before I get there so there's no unpleasantness.
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Post by riotgrrl on May 26, 2011 14:32:50 GMT
Just updated my FB status:
Congratulations to Serbia for arresting Ratko Mladic. This wonderful and unfairly maligned nation deserves to be embraced into the famliy of nations and hopefully this will remove an obstacle to that. Живела Србија
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Post by Patrick on May 26, 2011 17:07:14 GMT
The more baddies they bring to justice, the sooner they can all go back to try and live in harmony - ish? I know I always drag this analogy out, but it's all I've got, but I knew someone who spent a lot of time over there before the last lot of stuff blew up - and he was told how all the ordinary folk get on perfectly well together, happily integrated. It just tends to be the leaders who stir the pot.
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Post by Patrick on May 26, 2011 18:16:02 GMT
Channel Four News excellent on this tonight! Worth a look on +1 If you're missing it now.
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Post by riotgrrl on May 27, 2011 11:45:17 GMT
Of course it serves Serbia's current national interest to have Mladic painted as a war criminal and 'othered' from the rest of the Bosnian Serbs.
In reality, many - if not most - of the Bosnian Serbs in particular (they being the sort of country cousins of the Serbian Serbs) think he's a hero.
Mind you, the Croats, who the Germans and Austrians are falling over to bring into the heart of Europe, have a great love for some very dodgy fascist characters and that's never mentioned in polite society.
Easier to blame the Serbs for everything I guess.
They're a shower of f*kers in the Balkans! But lovely wine!
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Post by sesley on May 28, 2011 15:35:19 GMT
if they can bring old nazis to justice even if they are deaf and in wheel chairs this guy can answer for his dreadful crimes which i read about in the papers yesturday.The bastard! He should get what he gave to his victims,i wonder if his henchmen are being hunted too. This terrible time of 20 the century also showed the uselessness of the UN who were powerless to act to protect the poor people from slaughter.
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