one horse power

[sesley]

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8563492/Chinese-businessman-takes-horse-to-work-to-avoid-traffic.html

at the turn of the 19 th century they thought London would be piled high with horse manure,then the car was invented and now the pollution is from cars not horses,at least horses produce a by product for cultivating gardens. Though the cost of grain has increased and there are a lot of horses that end up unwanted because the owners can't afford them anymore,but would they be cheaper and better for communting to work ?

[aubrey]

I don't like to think of the horses that had to pull those Omnibuses.

[riotgrrl]

Rank sentimentality Aubrey.

It's what horses DO.

[trubble]

And is going in to war and being killed also just what horses do?



I'd love to see the play ''War Horse'', the puppets are beyond amazing. It's a book and a film too. I'll stop now before I begin to sound too like Liza offa Give Us A Clue.

[jean]

I've seen it - it is wonderful.

I think most horses would prefer the omnibus job.

[riotgrrl]

Jun 9, 2011 9:35:31 GMT trubble said:

And is going in to war and being killed also just what horses do?

Well, eh,yes, of course.

Horses have been domesticated by humans for thousands of years to serve the purposes we have for them.

A horse is a horse. It's what it does.

[Alpha Hooligan]

"They're under the guns..."

The problem with horses is that for a few hundred years, they were fucking awesome for warfare.

I like seeing them used to smash rioting scum in the modern day as well.


AH

[aubrey]

18th century London must have been a horse hell.


I think horses are only used in riots so they can get hurt and then the police can blame the rioters for it.

[riotgrrl]

Nah, police horses are used because they're really frightening.

I've been in a riot, eh, crowd of people where they were using them and you're going to run away, you really are. They're HUGE!!!

(They exercise the police horses round the square I live in sometimes. One night the 2 cops on horses were trying to arrest 4 neds . . we were watching out the window for about half an hour before the meat wagon came. It was hilarious. In order to hold the handcuffed neds and stop them running off, they had to let go of the horses, and the horses were wandering around eating hedges and stuff. And the neds' girlfriends were trying to pat them and take photos. Brilliant stuff!)

[Alpha Hooligan]

Aubs, they are used because 500 kilos of horse charging you at speed is fucking scary and will shift the most determined rioter.


AH

[aubrey]

The police always blame the demonstraters if the horses get hurt, though.

[Alpha Hooligan]

Jun 9, 2011 16:41:25 GMT aubrey said:

The police always blame the demonstraters if the horses get hurt, though.

That's because it's usually the case.

The police have very limited options for crowd control when you take horses and dogs out of the equation.

Personally, I'd use water cannon with a mix of brine and pepper spray, soon sap the moral of rioters when they are blinded and have freezing cold brine-soaked clothing that won't dry.

Or rooftop snipers (which I admit is my "go to" solution for most problems from rioters to homelessness to dogs fouling the pavement).




AH

[Weyland]

Jun 9, 2011 17:12:37 GMT Alpha Hooligan said:

The police have very limited options for crowd control when you take horses and dogs out of the equation.

I was at St James's Park (THE St James's Park) in the late 60s when The Lads were playing Rangers in the Fairs Cup. We won. Naturally the Rangers fans ran onto the pitch. (Yes, I know they'd do the same, win or lose.)

The police released their dogs. Pure unadulterated pleasure, watching big Alsatians sinking their fangs into feral Orangemen. It's what dogs were made for.

[riotgrrl]

Hey Weyland you're alive! I was beginning to worry. I even sent you a text - did you not get it?

Wish I hadn't now as you're such an old bigot. I shall go home and tell the Rangers fan in my life that he is, according to you, "a feral orangeman". Don't expect a dinner invite round chez nous any time soon . . .

[Weyland]

Jun 10, 2011 8:54:35 GMT @riotgrrl said:

Hey Weyland you're alive! I was beginning to worry. I even sent you a text - did you not get it?

No, I didn't. Please send it again.

Wish I hadn't now as you're such an old bigot. I shall go home and tell the Rangers fan in my life that he is, according to you, "a feral orangeman". Don't expect a dinner invite round chez nous any time soon . . .

Don't shoot the messenger. And in any case I was merely putting in a good word for the police force of Newcastle, including the canine officers. Nothing to do with bigotry.

~

Just got back to the WeyCaravan from CampusPop in Enschede, including Caro Emerald. It was great. This was her first concert since January on account of a vocal-cords op. All seems well, except that she looks like she's been scoffing chocolate for five months solid. I mean I like well-padded ladies, but she's taking it to extremes, and I worry about her health.

[Weyland]

Jun 10, 2011 8:54:35 GMT @riotgrrl said:

Hey Weyland you're alive! I was beginning to worry. I even sent you a text - did you not get it?

Wow — it just arrived.

The answer is no.

I'm on the Continent for a couple of weeks, but will still occasionally log in. (The free wifi broadband I get on this campsite on the NL/D border is more than twice as fast as what I get at home from BT.)

[trubble]

I just read this exciting news on another board:



2011 Tony Awards




Best Play

War Horse Author: Nick Stafford



Best Direction of a Play

Marianne Elliott and Tom Morris War Horse



Best Scenic Design of a Play

Rae Smith War Horse



Best Lighting Design of a Play

Paule Constable War Horse



Best Sound Design of a Play

Christopher Shutt War Horse



Best Sound Design of a Musical

Brian Ronan The Book of Mormon



Special Tony Award

Handspring Puppet Company