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Post by Patrick on Jun 20, 2011 15:52:40 GMT
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Post by riotgrrl on Jun 20, 2011 17:19:08 GMT
"As we drove into Glasgow, going to the gig I remember looking across to these flats. There were people setting up stalls on the street selling their things out of desperation, which I'd never seen before. . Funnily enough, I've never seen that either. He's a lying bastard.
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Post by riotgrrl on Jun 20, 2011 17:21:50 GMT
I never particularly liked that song when it came out tbh, and all this 'defines an era' rubbish is rubbish. There were other songs that year that better "defined the era".
Lot of Soft Cell and Adam & The Ants representing the new (shallow) sense of glamour taking over the land - this was the time of big hair and shoulder pads. It wasn't all race riots.
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Post by Patrick on Jun 20, 2011 18:26:30 GMT
Yup there's a lot of pretentious tosh about today. It's only set to get worse as well.
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Post by everso on Jul 6, 2011 15:48:42 GMT
I never particularly liked that song when it came out tbh, and all this 'defines an era' rubbish is rubbish. There were other songs that year that better "defined the era". Lot of Soft Cell and Adam & The Ants representing the new (shallow) sense of glamour taking over the land - this was the time of big hair and shoulder pads. It wasn't all race riots. I loved the 80s! Out almost every Saturday night (my parents were ace babysitters), drinking scotch and smoking fags. I loved my thirties (and my forties). If only the music had been as good as in the sixties.
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Post by everso on Jul 6, 2011 15:52:19 GMT
Ghost Town wasn't that great.
I preferred Frankie Goes To Hollywood. ;D
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Post by Weyland on Jul 6, 2011 15:56:45 GMT
I preferred Frankie Goes To Hollywood. ;D Crikey! Never thought I'd ever encounter anyone saying that. Your one weakness? ~ [There's a Jock on R5 this minute name of Eddie Cochrane. Is NOTHING sacred!?!]
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Post by everso on Jul 6, 2011 16:41:03 GMT
I preferred Frankie Goes To Hollywood. ;D Crikey! Never thought I'd ever encounter anyone saying that.Your one weakness? ~ [There's a Jock on R5 this minute name of Eddie Cochrane. Is NOTHING sacred!?!] Tsk! Relax, Weyland.
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Jul 6, 2011 21:54:16 GMT
"As we drove into Glasgow, going to the gig I remember looking across to these flats. There were people setting up stalls on the street selling their things out of desperation, which I'd never seen before. . Funnily enough, I've never seen that either. He's a lying bastard. Indeed. Thats the sort of dishonest bullshit you read in the Gruan when Polly Toynbee is predicting 40 billion homeless orphans selling their organs because of Ian Duncan Satan strangling their benefits or some such bollocks. Ghost town was a good and somewhat bleak choon...but it didn't define the era for me. AH
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Post by aubrey on Jul 7, 2011 8:42:41 GMT
I've seen people selling stuff on the pavement.
The latest prediction of maybe 40,000 people being made homeless by Govt cuts was from the Govt itself, Alph.
Usually this kind of homelessness happens in bits, and is easily ignored.
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Post by Weyland on Jul 7, 2011 9:35:59 GMT
I've seen people selling stuff on the pavement. The latest prediction of maybe 40,000 people being made homeless by Govt cuts was from the Govt itself, Alph. Usually this kind of homelessness happens in bits, and is easily ignored. Or in pit villages, and was ignored by design.
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Post by everso on Jul 7, 2011 11:06:50 GMT
Or in the East End. But they just went down the pub.
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Jul 7, 2011 16:18:42 GMT
I've seen people selling stuff on the pavement. The latest prediction of maybe 40,000 people being made homeless by Govt cuts was from the Govt itself, Alph. Usually this kind of homelessness happens in bits, and is easily ignored. Honestly? People do car boot sales, but they always have done. I've never walked down a normal street and seen people selling stuff unless that street happens to be a market. I know a lot of people will have to relocate, but lets be honest, people on benefits really shouldn't be living in houses that cost £2000 a month to rent. It really never should have got to that in the first place...it's madness. AH
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Post by Weyland on Jul 7, 2011 16:25:50 GMT
Or in the East End. But they just went down the pub. Gertcha.
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Post by everso on Jul 7, 2011 18:42:56 GMT
Or in the East End. But they just went down the pub. Gertcha. Or in the East End. But they just went down the pub. Gertcha. ;D I'll have you wearing a pearly king's outfit yet. My old grandad spent most of his time down the pub. That same pub (The Royal Duke, Commercial Road, Stepney - also known as Ratcliff for some obscure reason) is now an Asian corner shop. At least, I presume it's Asian. Most shops are in that area. Attachments:
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Post by aubrey on Jul 8, 2011 5:48:00 GMT
I've seen people selling stuff on the pavement. The latest prediction of maybe 40,000 people being made homeless by Govt cuts was from the Govt itself, Alph. Usually this kind of homelessness happens in bits, and is easily ignored. Honestly? People do car boot sales, but they always have done. I've never walked down a normal street and seen people selling stuff unless that street happens to be a market. I know a lot of people will have to relocate, but lets be honest, people on benefits really shouldn't be living in houses that cost £2000 a month to rent. It really never should have got to that in the first place...it's madness. AH It was on a market; but they were doing it illegally, and the last time I went they had all been cleared. At one time people like that were set up half a mile either end of the licensed market. Sometimes they only had a few tatty paperbacks on a piece of cloth. Alph, if there's a big family needs housing, what do you do with them? Split them up? make them live in a place that's too small (which is illegal)? Not house them at all )Also illegal)? Send them to Hull? If it's a working family that is made unemployed, do they automatically lose their home? It seems a bit hard to punish individual families for a 30 year failure to build enough council houses.
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Post by housesparrow on Jul 8, 2011 6:15:32 GMT
According to the alarming documentary I saw a few nights ago, they rent garden sheds in Ealing.
My summerhouse must be good for twenty quid a week.
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Post by Weyland on Jul 8, 2011 9:08:11 GMT
According to the alarming documentary I saw a few nights ago, they rent garden sheds in Ealing. My summerhouse must be good for twenty quid a week. I could sleep four or five in the garage. An American friend staying with us in Holland, when seeing the allotments on the edge of town, each with a little shed or two, asked me if that's where the immigrants lived. She thought it was the Dutch equivalent of a US trailer park.
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Jul 8, 2011 17:23:37 GMT
Honestly? People do car boot sales, but they always have done. I've never walked down a normal street and seen people selling stuff unless that street happens to be a market. I know a lot of people will have to relocate, but lets be honest, people on benefits really shouldn't be living in houses that cost £2000 a month to rent. It really never should have got to that in the first place...it's madness. AH It was on a market; but they were doing it illegally, and the last time I went they had all been cleared. At one time people like that were set up half a mile either end of the licensed market. Sometimes they only had a few tatty paperbacks on a piece of cloth. Alph, if there's a big family needs housing, what do you do with them? Split them up? make them live in a place that's too small (which is illegal)? Not house them at all )Also illegal)? Send them to Hull? If it's a working family that is made unemployed, do they automatically lose their home? It seems a bit hard to punish individual families for a 30 year failure to build enough council houses. Well, let's see how it all pans out first...and if 40.000 folks do end up on the streets, I will be just as unhappy about it anybody else. But I really don't see it happening. And regarding 30 years of failure...yes, governments should be legally obliged to provide enough houses for it's citizens, I can't believe that they aren't to be honest...maybe if we stopped taking in 100's of 1000's of immigrants a year for several years we could catch up with the housing and see a few more jobs go to people who already live here. AH
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Post by everso on Jul 8, 2011 17:25:22 GMT
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