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Post by Patrick on Jul 7, 2012 0:05:22 GMT
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 9, 2012 15:17:36 GMT
Patrick, time to move to Scotland.
Health is mainly devolved to the Scottish Government, and they are certainly not going down this privatisation route you seem fixed on in England and Wales.
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Post by Patrick on Jul 9, 2012 15:24:09 GMT
...........where would you recommend? ;D ;D
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 10, 2012 12:23:32 GMT
...........where would you recommend? ;D ;D All of it. |
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Post by Patrick on Jul 21, 2012 21:22:10 GMT
So it begins..... ....from the Newmarket Journal; ‘Private’ hospital contract signed
Published on Thursday 19 July 2012 17:00
THE contract that will see Newmarket Hospital run by a private company was signed on Friday.
The hospital is part of the community health services currently provided by Suffolk Community Healthcare, which will be formally transferred to multi-national service company Serco by the autumn in a three-year deal worth £159.9 million.
The change is in line with guidance from the Department of Health which stipulates that all primary care trusts, like NHS Suffolk, will no longer directly provide community services and will buy the services instead.
Paul Forden, Serco’s managing director of acute care, said: “We are delighted to have been given this opportunity to deliver NHS community health services and invest in improving the care for people in Suffolk.
“It paves the way for an exciting new delivery model which will place the patient at the heart of the service while empowering clinicians to spend more time caring. By working closely with partners from across the NHS, voluntary and private sector, we believe we can deliver a truly exemplary service which will bring real benefits to the county’s 600,000 patients.”
Interestingly, my local NHS Trust - Morecambe Bay, has had a lot of headline grabbing troubles lately. This has lead to the appointment of five new Non Executive Directors, as well as a new Chief Executive. One of those NED's has employment with Serco in her CV. |
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Post by Weyland on Jul 22, 2012 7:49:47 GMT
So it begins..... ....from the Newmarket Journal; ‘Private’ hospital contract signed
Published on Thursday 19 July 2012 17:00
THE contract that will see Newmarket Hospital run by a private company was signed on Friday.
The hospital is part of the community health services currently provided by Suffolk Community Healthcare, which will be formally transferred to multi-national service company Serco by the autumn in a three-year deal worth £159.9 million.
The change is in line with guidance from the Department of Health which stipulates that all primary care trusts, like NHS Suffolk, will no longer directly provide community services and will buy the services instead.
Paul Forden, Serco’s managing director of acute care, said: “We are delighted to have been given this opportunity to deliver NHS community health services and invest in improving the care for people in Suffolk.
“It paves the way for an exciting new delivery model which will place the patient at the heart of the service while empowering clinicians to spend more time caring. By working closely with partners from across the NHS, voluntary and private sector, we believe we can deliver a truly exemplary service which will bring real benefits to the county’s 600,000 patients.”
Interestingly, my local NHS Trust - Morecambe Bay, has had a lot of headline grabbing troubles lately. This has lead to the appointment of five new Non Executive Directors, as well as a new Chief Executive. One of those NED's has employment with Serco in her CV. "Serco share-holders will be over the moon, unless they live in Suffolk or near Morecambe Bay." |
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Post by Patrick on Aug 2, 2012 9:26:47 GMT
Junk mail popped on the mat this morning from Aviva - shouting that "You deserve Private Medical treatment and it's available at hospitals near you". At least it's not listing the NHS hospitals we have - but it's only a matter of time I suppose. At the bottom of the page though, there's the reminder that PMI isn't all it's cut out to be - especially the bits they "cut out";  |
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Post by riotgrrl on Aug 2, 2012 9:31:26 GMT
Part of me is just thankful that the 'N'HS in Scotland is completely separately managed and run from that in England & Wales, and that we are not going down this hardline privatisation route you seem to be on.
(There are two 'National' Health Services in the UK, and they are increasingly different!)
HOWEVER, part of me thinks that we over-fetishise the NHS in the UK (see Olympic Opening ceremony madness!) and that the clinical outcomes here are no better and sometimes worse than in other EUropean countries who have a different model of health services.
Our NHS is not as great as we seem to think. Hospitals are grotty and inefficient. Every time one of my family goes near one something happens, be it hospital acquired infections, all their notes getting lost, etc. etc. Nurses - 'angels' - can be disinterested, rude, ignorant and more interested in chatting to their mates than actually dealing with patients - some are great, sure, but they're not all all that! Doctors can be aloof, ignorant, etc.
Yet somehow it's considered treason to dare to criticise.
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Post by Patrick on Aug 2, 2012 12:34:39 GMT
Great Zarquon! Yes indeed! I've two elderly relatives who in the past five years have been treated badly in hospital one, arguably fatally! - My Mother in Law has had to endure an extra hip operation and recently a new knee operation - linked to the failure of the first hip operation - (Legal action ongoing) she also came out from the (Brand New) hospital with an extra infection to boot! Hospitals can be terrible places! Agree on the disinterested nurses bit too! I often wonder if they did more "on the job" training instead of all University stuff and fewer placements they might have more dedication!
I was once fairly shocked by the lack of focus of our A+E department on a couple of occasions. Hopefully they were having bad days - on another time they 'made up for it'
I would welcome a different way of funding the NHS if they were honest about it - AND there wasn't always some shadowy figure in the background ready to hoover up any profit made in share options and a jolly pension. I imagine that is what is making so many people cross. About a third - if not more of Tory MP's stand to gain something from the way they're going about this break up at the moment, and any number of Lords - both Labour as well will get handsome bonuses for their hard work in screwing the man on the Clapham Omnibus.
The French are even more bureaucratic than us - and reading some of the Ex-pat sites the number of different insurances and top up insurances you need must be maddening. They seem to manage OK (Alan!!!?) If the Government honestly came along and said we would be adopting that system I might well go along with it, but all we're doing is undemocratically turning it into the U.S style of Health Insurance where fat cats get fatter and the poor die on the streets.
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Post by aubrey on Aug 2, 2012 13:02:51 GMT
Sorry to be picky (not I'm not), but aren't nurses supposed to be disinterested? I wouldn't want them uninterested, like. But I also wouldn't want them having favourites amongst the patients.
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Post by riotgrrl on Aug 2, 2012 13:51:42 GMT
Sorry to be picky (not I'm not), but aren't nurses supposed to be disinterested? I wouldn't want them uninterested, like. But I also wouldn't want them having favourites amongst the patients. So maybe I meant uninterested . . . smack me! |
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Post by Patrick on Aug 2, 2012 14:05:53 GMT
"Focussed"? Perhaps?
Just a question of needing a holiday. Was it a book on Vietnam that was about the danger of suffering so much death and destruction you become immune to it? So therefore a patient just becomes a commodity rather than a human being?
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Post by aubrey on Aug 2, 2012 19:03:26 GMT
Sorry to be picky (not I'm not), but aren't nurses supposed to be disinterested? I wouldn't want them uninterested, like. But I also wouldn't want them having favourites amongst the patients. . . . smack me! really? OK.  Hmm. Not as much fun as I'd imagined. |
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Post by riotgrrl on Aug 3, 2012 14:42:15 GMT
really? OK. Hmm. Not as much fun as I'd imagined. Frankly I'm insulted. Spanking me would be more fun than you could possibly imagine young man!!! (Not that I'm the kind of girl who gets spanked, in case you all think I've turned into some kind of pervert here!) |
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Post by aubrey on Aug 3, 2012 16:48:41 GMT
I only meant that the icon wasn't as much fun as I'd imagined. I'm sure that in real life it would be a grand experience. But I think I'll stop there.
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Post by Patrick on Aug 4, 2012 18:09:40 GMT
 I'm saying nuffink, me. 
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Post by Weyland on Aug 14, 2012 10:24:44 GMT
really? OK. Hmm. Not as much fun as I'd imagined. Frankly I'm insulted. Spanking me would be more fun than you could possibly imagine young man!!! (Not that I'm the kind of girl who gets spanked, in case you all think I've turned into some kind of pervert here!) I'd've spanked you by now, Riot, especially when you were waving your knickers around in that London pub -- if only you hadn't made it crystal clear that touching you meant marrying you. Just saying. GWD? Why not? |
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I'm saying nuffink, me. 