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Post by housesparrow on Mar 30, 2009 15:50:16 GMT
I've just read the story and sympathise with the view that any adopted child should be a genuine orphan. Here there appears to be a a father.
This rang alarm bells: "Mercy's 61-year-old grandmother, Lucy Chekechiwa, told the Sun newspaper that it had previously been agreed that she would take responsibility for the child when she turned six. "It is stealing," she said. "I won't let her go."
So why isn't the grandmother caring for the child now - a six year old child costs as much to feed as one oged four, surely? Is it perhaps because when she is six she will be able to pay her way in one way or another? No, the child is perhaps better out of it.
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Post by everso on Mar 30, 2009 16:26:44 GMT
I don't agree that this should be happening. Aren't there any kids in the U.S. suitable for adoption?
With the money she has it would be better if she donated money to this kid's family to enable them to bring her up themselves. It would probably be cheaper too. But, of course, then she wouldn't get the press coverage.
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Post by swl on Mar 30, 2009 17:07:08 GMT
Cheaper to feed an African baby. All they need is a handfull of grain and a spoon of water a day (true - I saw it on National Geographic). Have you seen how much a McDonalds is nowadays? Madonna didn't get rich by being extravagant.
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Post by housesparrow on Mar 30, 2009 19:59:09 GMT
I don't agree that this should be happening. Aren't there any kids in the U.S. suitable for adoption? With the money she has it would be better if she donated money to this kid's family to enable them to bring her up themselves. It would probably be cheaper too. But, of course, then she wouldn't get the press coverage. I would never do that. I might give money to a charity out there that helps families - but in Africa (as elsewhere) there are people who would take the cash and still leave their kids in an orphanage. |
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Post by trubble on Mar 31, 2009 0:03:56 GMT
But then again, at the weekend I was reading that book about Madonna by her brother Christopher that someone loaned me . . and she really is a pretty nasty person. (Madonna is.) She doesn't seem very nice. Total control freak. Tight with her money. etc. I was under the illusion(?) that Christopher was a gold digger and had been screwing Madonna over for money and jobs and riding on her coat tails.  |
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Post by trubble on Mar 31, 2009 0:05:35 GMT
She's 4 months younger than me. Trust me...too bloody old. Only because you've already done it. I am too old to be bringing up kids but my peers have young preschool families. I am too old because I've done it and it had nearly killed me.  ;D |
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Post by trubble on Mar 31, 2009 0:06:09 GMT
Geldof's a nob, and always was a nob  I like him and I am sending you a hurt look.  |
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Post by trubble on Mar 31, 2009 0:09:50 GMT
why not? he hasn't saved Africa, they are still starving and dying,his efforts good but unfortuately not his fault not enough,meanwhile his daughters are attention seeking,so my thought is will Madonnas and Mrs Pitt and possibly end up doing the same. will be interesting to see how things develop. you know children need love and support in their infromative years more than money,someone to guide them in the to make the right choices in life and protect them from the big bad world while they are so vunerable not let out to run wild looking for attention and love from outside home because home was unable to give it to them. thats what being a parent is about,so is a dysfunctional popstar suitable for adopting another child from a different background,apart from plenty of oppertunites she can give them from her wealth what about the real parenting stuff people like you and me can give to our children without the wealth,is Madonna just shopping for another accessory? How is she dysfunctional?  She is super successful, top of her game for decades, legendary, and has altered her career life to raise a family and so far I have heard nothing horrific about her kids. Geldolf's girls are also fine. Normal teenagers in loads of ways just with more access to cooler stuff and parties and newspaper publicity. They are only following in the footstep of their mother and father, perhaps there's something deep in the veins, and so far they are doing better than either of them, much less messed up, a credit to Sir Bob! |
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Post by trubble on Mar 31, 2009 0:11:58 GMT
I don't agree that this should be happening. Aren't there any kids in the U.S. suitable for adoption? With the money she has it would be better if she donated money to this kid's family to enable them to bring her up themselves. It would probably be cheaper too. But, of course, then she wouldn't get the press coverage. I would never do that. I might give money to a charity out there that helps families - but in Africa (as elsewhere) there are people who would take the cash and still leave their kids in an orphanage. There are. And I gather that Madonna has spent a lot of money trying to improve the situation out there, hence the accusation that she is getting these kids as repayment.  I wish Madonna and her nanny would adopt ME! |
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Post by bonbonlarue on Mar 31, 2009 6:25:09 GMT
Firmly believe that it's a young persons game..plus the fact, the younger you are, the more chance you have of living long enough to meet your Grandchildren.
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Mar 31, 2009 7:51:24 GMT
but they live with Madonnas nannies not her, when did she wipe a runny nose and get up at 2 in the morning for a child that was vomiiting in its bed? its good she has the money to give them a good life,but these celebs do this shopping for a orphan child as one shops for a handbag, her and Angeli Jolie seem to use thse children to big up their egos. You can slag Mad Donna all you like, but please leave the lovely Angelina alone.  AH |
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 31, 2009 9:54:27 GMT
why not? he hasn't saved Africa, they are still starving and dying,his efforts good but unfortuately not his fault not enough,meanwhile his daughters are attention seeking,so my thought is will Madonnas and Mrs Pitt and possibly end up doing the same. will be interesting to see how things develop. you know children need love and support in their infromative years more than money,someone to guide them in the to make the right choices in life and protect them from the big bad world while they are so vunerable not let out to run wild looking for attention and love from outside home because home was unable to give it to them. thats what being a parent is about,so is a dysfunctional popstar suitable for adopting another child from a different background,apart from plenty of oppertunites she can give them from her wealth what about the real parenting stuff people like you and me can give to our children without the wealth,is Madonna just shopping for another accessory? How is she dysfunctional? She is super successful, top of her game for decades, legendary, and has altered her career life to raise a family and so far I have heard nothing horrific about her kids. Geldolf's girls are also fine. Normal teenagers in loads of ways just with more access to cooler stuff and parties and newspaper publicity. They are only following in the footstep of their mother and father, perhaps there's something deep in the veins, and so far they are doing better than either of them, much less messed up, a credit to Sir Bob! Trubs! Peaches Geldof married in Vegas and divorced a few weeks later. Peaches Geldof has had ambulances sent out to her for cocaine-induced panic attacks while she's out on the town. Now these may be normal teenage acts, but I wouldn't consider my daughter "a credit" to me (not that I do anyway) if she was doing all this in the full and deliberate glare of the paparazzi. |
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 31, 2009 9:57:24 GMT
But then again, at the weekend I was reading that book about Madonna by her brother Christopher that someone loaned me . . and she really is a pretty nasty person. (Madonna is.) She doesn't seem very nice. Total control freak. Tight with her money. etc. I was under the illusion(?) that Christopher was a gold digger and had been screwing Madonna over for money and jobs and riding on her coat tails. That's not how he tells it. He used to decorate her houses for her for a far cheaper fee than any other designer, and she used to welsh on the payments. The last payment she was due to him she refused to give him; instead she used it to buy plane tickets and a stay in Skibo Castle for her marriage to Guy Ritchie. During the marriage dinners (which stretched over several days) there were numerous homophobic speeches by Guy and his pals, to the stage where Gwyneth Paltrow took pity on the brother (who is gay) and helped him to get away from it all. Sure she employed him off and on, but he never knew when she'd come calling and he was expected to drop everything to do her bidding when she did. Of course, we only have his version of events, but Madonna comes out of it shockingly badly. Lourdes is a beautiful looking young girl though, isn't she? |
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Post by housesparrow on Mar 31, 2009 10:27:20 GMT
Lourdes certainly looks beautiful - but not 13.
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Post by riotgrrl on Mar 31, 2009 10:31:35 GMT
Lourdes certainly looks beautiful - but not 13. That's what 13 year olds look like these days Spars. |
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Post by Patrick on Mar 31, 2009 12:36:19 GMT
Geldolf's girls are also fine. Normal teenagers in loads of ways just with more access to cooler stuff and parties and newspaper publicity. They are only following in the footstep of their mother and father, perhaps there's something deep in the veins, and so far they are doing better than either of them, much less messed up, a credit to Sir Bob! What? Having no talent whatsoever? The only reason why they are following Mummy and Daddy is because I bet Daddy's done some tinkering behind the scenes for their benefit. Ditto Ms Lily Alllen There is nothing special or talentworthy about Ms Geldof. (and yes, I've seen her dire presentation work) I get cross about Lilly Allen (seeing as I mentioned her) because whilst some of her songs are "pretty-ish" it was very clear from hearing her talk on her dire chat show that she was very much more "Mockney" than "Cockney. |
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Post by everso on Mar 31, 2009 14:26:35 GMT
Geldolf's girls are also fine. Normal teenagers in loads of ways just with more access to cooler stuff and parties and newspaper publicity. They are only following in the footstep of their mother and father, perhaps there's something deep in the veins, and so far they are doing better than either of them, much less messed up, a credit to Sir Bob! What? Having no talent whatsoever? The only reason why they are following Mummy and Daddy is because I bet Daddy's done some tinkering behind the scenes for their benefit. Ditto Ms Lily Alllen There is nothing special or talentworthy about Ms Geldof. (and yes, I've seen her dire presentation work) I get cross about Lilly Allen (seeing as I mentioned her) because whilst some of her songs are "pretty-ish" it was very clear from hearing her talk on her dire chat show that she was very much more "Mockney" than "Cockney. Why on earth does ANYONE talk mockney? It sounds ridiculous and very obvious - the same as a cockney trying to speak "proper". It can't be done. |
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Post by Patrick on Mar 31, 2009 14:50:31 GMT
Why on earth does ANYONE talk mockney? It sounds ridiculous and very obvious - the same as a cockney trying to speak "proper". It can't be done. I blame Dick Van Dyke! ;D |
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Post by sesley on Mar 31, 2009 14:59:20 GMT
Audery Hepburn managed to speak proper in My Fair Lady. taught by Rex Harrison of course this ad
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Post by trubble on Mar 31, 2009 15:28:41 GMT
Hulloooo Hallloooo - someone has just given me their left over credit on the intarwebs, I am waving at y'all from gatwick airport. If anyone can get herein the next hour I will buy them a pint! x
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