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Post by Patrick on Apr 2, 2009 13:11:30 GMT
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Apr 2, 2009 13:22:19 GMT
It's a bit pathetic to blame the boy "Bo Jo" for record snowfall. I would've walked out as well.
Next time it happens, he should enlist Galloway and Benn to blast it all away with hot air.
AH
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Post by Patrick on Apr 2, 2009 13:30:19 GMT
I'm surprised they're wasting money on talking about it!
Britain+Snow=Complete Breakdown!
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Apr 2, 2009 13:34:02 GMT
I'm surprised they're wasting money on talking about it! Britain+Snow=Complete Breakdown! It could've been worse, it could've been that "wrong kind of snow" that stops trains and stuff... AH |
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Post by gIant on Apr 2, 2009 18:40:14 GMT
I agree you can't blame anyone in particular for the transport breakdown, but lets face it, we are absolute c**p at dealing with snow in this country, and everything always grinds to a halt. Has no one thought of seeking advice from countries who deal with this all the time?
Seems simple enough to me!!!
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Post by riotgrrl on Apr 2, 2009 18:43:24 GMT
I agree you can't blame anyone in particular for the transport breakdown, but lets face it, we are absolute c**p at dealing with snow in this country, and everything always grinds to a halt. Has no one thought of seeking advice from countries who deal with this all the time? Seems simple enough to me!!! Och you're all just a bunch of steaming Saffern softies. We don't let snow bother us up here. (Actually, Glasgow rarely gets slow on account of our gulf-stream washed balmy climate. All palm trees round here you know!) It was ridiculous down south this year; I can't believe the capital city of the empire (as was) ground to a halt. Riots on the street? London can cope with that. But a bit of snow . . and it's closed. |
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Post by everso on Apr 2, 2009 23:04:14 GMT
I think a lot of the problem was held at the "Health and Safety" door. I believe that's why the buses were taken out of service - not that they couldn't run but that there was a chance that a bus might skid or something. Or even that someone might slip over trying to run for a bus. Or something. No matter that during The Blitz buses still managed to run  When they weren't being blown up, that is. |
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Post by Patrick on Apr 2, 2009 23:31:38 GMT
I think a lot of the problem was held at the "Health and Safety" door. I believe that's why the buses were taken out of service - not that they couldn't run but that there was a chance that a bus might skid or something. Or even that someone might slip over trying to run for a bus. Or something. No matter that during The Blitz buses still managed to run When they weren't being blown up, that is. I remember a few days of snow in Eastbourne in '95 or 6 and a bus got stuck on one of the slopier bits round in "Bungalow City" - you know the sort of thing - retired types with curly cast iron house numbers and Spotless Rovers on the front drive etc - The residents saw what was happening and all came out with shovels and cups of tea to help the driver get going again! |
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Post by housesparrow on Apr 3, 2009 7:46:31 GMT
I think a lot of the problem was held at the "Health and Safety" door. I believe that's why the buses were taken out of service - not that they couldn't run but that there was a chance that a bus might skid or something. Or even that someone might slip over trying to run for a bus. Or something. No matter that during The Blitz buses still managed to run When they weren't being blown up, that is. That has a depressing ring of truth about it. Solve the vicious spiral of the compensation culture and we might be half way to putting Britain back on its feet! As for buses running during the Blitz - I am told that at night during the war London buses had to drive without lights, and a lot of people got run over by them. |
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Post by percyplum on Apr 3, 2009 10:00:06 GMT
Because we get very little snow here, certainly compared to Canada and northern Europe, there wouldn't be much point is asking how they deal with it. Having the "right" equipment would be a colossal expense we can't afford. It doesn't happen often enough to warrant it.
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Post by Patrick on Apr 3, 2009 12:21:52 GMT
Because we get very little snow here, certainly compared to Canada and northern Europe, there wouldn't be much point is asking how they deal with it. Having the "right" equipment would be a colossal expense we can't afford. It doesn't happen often enough to warrant it. What we need is for someone to develop a Ferguson tractor/Swiss Army knife of a Council Utility vehicle - where you just clamp the right bits on for each season! |
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Apr 3, 2009 14:33:39 GMT
Because we get very little snow here, certainly compared to Canada and northern Europe, there wouldn't be much point is asking how they deal with it. Having the "right" equipment would be a colossal expense we can't afford. It doesn't happen often enough to warrant it. What we need is for someone to develop a Ferguson tractor/Swiss Army knife of a Council Utility vehicle - where you just clamp the right bits on for each season! Don't be so bloody stupid! That would be sensible, and we don't like your sort in government or councils, we don't like your sort at all...thinking you are better than the rest of us, chucking out money saving ideas that would allow things to run smoothly...who the Hell do you think you are? Go on, sling yer 'ook! AH |
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Post by percyplum on Apr 3, 2009 15:31:24 GMT
What we need is for someone to develop a Ferguson tractor/Swiss Army knife of a Council Utility vehicle - where you just clamp the right bits on for each season! Don't be so bloody stupid! That would be sensible, and we don't like your sort in government or councils, we don't like your sort at all...thinking you are better than the rest of us, chucking out money saving ideas that would allow things to run smoothly...who the Hell do you think you are? Go on, sling yer 'ook! AH Erm, I recall when I was a child, many moons ago, my father had a snow plough attachment that fitted on the front of the tractor. Because of that, he kept the lanes near our farm open - the council never bothered! |
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Post by housesparrow on Apr 3, 2009 16:05:28 GMT
percyplum - when I lived in the country the roads were cleared of snow by local farmers and everyone said how wonderful they were. I'd lived there for some years before I discovered that the council paid them to do the work!
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Post by percyplum on Apr 4, 2009 8:25:16 GMT
They did...eventually! A small amount, as I recall, for the work involved.
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Post by Flatypus on Apr 5, 2009 15:43:21 GMT
Of course everything breaks down with a day or two of snow because a day or two is all there's likely to be. I bet the story is different in Aberdeen! In most countries, once the snow sets in it's there for the winter and it's worth investing in all the clearance equipment and in summer and winter tyres or at elast chains. In Southern England it just plain isn't. Snow often isn't deep or solid enough to warrant chains and it certainly doesn't last long enough to switch onto winter tyres. The real problem is slush and refrozen slush. It is really more cost-effective to let everything go to hell for a day or two than to lay all this stuff in for less than a week in total out of the year.
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Post by trubble on Apr 5, 2009 15:58:45 GMT
I agree.
It's common sense.
People just like a moan.
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Post by percyplum on Apr 5, 2009 16:14:01 GMT
Mr Plum used to be an Assistant Head Postmaster in Kent many, many years ago. He found it strange, as a Yorkshireman, that their quota of 4 wheel drive vehicles exceeded those in some parts of the north, simply because of the snowfall down here. And they needed them!
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Post by housesparrow on Apr 5, 2009 18:53:40 GMT
Having been born and brought up in Kent and also lived there in the 1980s I can vouch for how bad the snow is there; something to do with easterly winds and the terrain I think, creating great drifts.
Our boss used to tell us if we got in before 11 in heavy snow, we could count it as a full day. Then he used to let us go off at 4! I lived three miles away and would walk in - it was the only safe way - and a beautiful start to the day.
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Post by everso on Apr 6, 2009 0:09:45 GMT
Kent very often does bear the brunt of southern snow. In Essex we're pretty fortunate being well sheltered.
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When they weren't being blown up, that is.
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