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Post by Patrick on May 18, 2009 9:59:40 GMT
So far, all the election literature that has plonked through my door and gone straight onto the recycle pile has been nameless. Until this morning. Labour's bit of junk was addresses to me at my address!  Talking about abusing their position! Oh - and does anyone else feel (Presumably they are getting paid for it so it will be a good thing - I suppose  ) Slightly uncomfortable with the Post Office being used to deliver political leaflets? |
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Post by trubble on May 18, 2009 10:09:24 GMT
Most bits of election literature come addressed to me, through the post, all our details are on the electoral register. I don't understand your complaint, sir!!!! Abuse of post office - it's a mail service, why can't it deliver leaflets? It gets paid for it. You don't want the post office to have paying customers now? Shazza, you are being such a bimbo this morning.  |
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Post by trubble on May 18, 2009 10:11:31 GMT
Stop nicking my arguments and sticking them in as your own.  |
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Post by Patrick on May 18, 2009 10:44:54 GMT
Most bits of election literature come addressed to me, through the post, all our details are on the electoral register. Well, that'll be an abuse of the electoral register then for those who have opted out of that service? I have never had specifically named and addressed political junk mail. Abuse of post office - it's a mail service, why can't it deliver leaflets? It gets paid for it. You don't want the post office to have paying customers now? I am presuming they can no longer get their loyal party workers to do the delivering like wot happened back in my day - local representatives pounding the streets for weeks on end spreading sweetness, light and political dogma. Using the post office is just idle. OK so the postie will get paid extra for it - but your proper post will be delivered later as a result! |
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Post by trubble on May 18, 2009 10:59:22 GMT
Doubt it. It's an electoral issue that it's being used for. I don't mind it. What's the harm?
Here, both happens. Posting and canvassing. Not there, no? You don't have someone calling into you to persuade you to vote?
Prove that!
Idle...you're cruel. I think it's clever thinking, myself.
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on May 18, 2009 11:05:41 GMT
Posties have to deliver these things, they need the cash, and yes, my nu-liebor propaganda leaflet was also addressed to me...straight in the bin with that filth! AH |
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Post by everso on May 18, 2009 12:28:16 GMT
I've been speaking to quite a few people recently about all the goings on with MPs expenses etc., and there are an awful lot of people who are considering voting for the BNP. |
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Post by Patrick on May 18, 2009 12:32:39 GMT
On WATO just now, someone has suggested that there will be a few more Independent MP's at the next election. Somehow, I think the majority of the sheep will vote just the way they always have! |
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Post by motorist on May 18, 2009 12:38:51 GMT
I've been speaking to quite a few people recently about all the goings on with MPs expenses etc., and there are an awful lot of people who are considering voting for the BNP. Why, do they think the BNP are magical saints who won't do the same thing?  |
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on May 18, 2009 13:37:08 GMT
I've been speaking to quite a few people recently about all the goings on with MPs expenses etc., and there are an awful lot of people who are considering voting for the BNP. Why, do they think the BNP are magical saints who won't do the same thing? Nope, they think that BNP are A: A fantastic stick to beat the gov with, and B: That they scare the living shit out of the gov. Labour and their mass immigration policies along with their betrayal/alienation of the British people are solely responsible for the rise of the BNP...and that doesn't look to good on their CV.  AH |
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Post by motorist on May 18, 2009 15:20:13 GMT
Why, do they think the BNP are magical saints who won't do the same thing? Nope, they think that BNP are A: A fantastic stick to beat the gov with, and B: That they scare the living shit out of the gov. Labour and their mass immigration policies along with their betrayal/alienation of the British people are solely responsible for the rise of the BNP...and that doesn't look to good on their CV. AH So what does any of that have to do with everso's comment about MP expenses then? |
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on May 18, 2009 15:50:05 GMT
People wish to punish labour and other parties because of expenses (and many other things), they see the BNP as an ideal outlet for this...they know that other parties will be horrified if the BNP increase their vote.
It's not about people seeing the BNP as paragons of virtue, it's about hurting the current bunch of troughing greedy scum.
People aren't voting *just* on the issue of expenses.
AH
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Post by housesparrow on May 19, 2009 6:08:25 GMT
Ours is such a Tory stronghold that none of the marginals ever stand. Even the Greens don't bother - though I might vote for them in the European elelction.
As for having "hidden" electoral rolls - well, I'm not sure I'm in favour. I am not hiding from creditors or the law, so don't mind my name going on a public list, so long as it is not sold commercially.
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Post by Patrick on May 19, 2009 9:37:23 GMT
As for having "hidden" electoral rolls - well, I'm not sure I'm in favour. I am not hiding from creditors or the law, so don't mind my name going on a public list, so long as it is not sold commercially. Unfortunately they are! Though all you have to do is tick the box to become excluded (hopefully) from those. An out of date electoral register that I have (2002/3) is apparently one of the last (2004 possibly) before this opt out was brought in. What a lot of "Ins" and "Outs". I'll be "Shaking it all about" before you know it! |
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Post by swl on May 19, 2009 10:07:59 GMT
Part of the Electoral Commission rules is that every party is entitled to one free delivery of election material using the electoral register and the Royal Mail. At first sight, that looks like nicking taxpayer's money for political ends, but it's designed to put all the parties on an even footing. Otherwise the rich parties would just pay to get it done whilst the smaller parties who couldn't afford it would be denied the chance. Given that the big parties have hundreds of sheep and wannabes volunteering to deliver leaflets in addition to the main drop, I think this is at least a partial levelling of the playing field.
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Post by housesparrow on May 19, 2009 10:51:36 GMT
As for having "hidden" electoral rolls - well, I'm not sure I'm in favour. I am not hiding from creditors or the law, so don't mind my name going on a public list, so long as it is not sold commercially. Unfortunately they are! Though all you have to do is tick the box to become excluded (hopefully) from those. An out of date electoral register that I have (2002/3) is apparently one of the last (2004 possibly) before this opt out was brought in. What a lot of "Ins" and "Outs". I'll be "Shaking it all about" before you know it!Years ago we were offered two types of opt out: one was from the register which was sold (we exercised that right) but the other was to be excluded from the public register anyone could see at the library or council office. We didn't opt out of that, partly because we could see no need for it. Are there still the two types of opt out? |
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Post by swl on May 19, 2009 13:02:23 GMT
I'm not really sure Housesparrow.
There's certainly two registers: one that contains everyone, but I think political parties may get access to that one.
The other is the one you can choose to be excluded from and that's the one that can be sold.
I think.
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Post by housesparrow on May 19, 2009 18:40:55 GMT
On reflection, I think the second option might have been not to have our information given out if anyone phoned. It was some time ago.
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