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Post by Patrick on May 31, 2009 21:18:47 GMT
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Post by Flatypus on Jun 1, 2009 2:44:37 GMT
It's worth remembering tht there were survivors because it's often put over as a disaster of such proportions that we wouldn't expect any survivors at all. In some ways it's very much a success story because for all the inadequate life-support, it could use radio to alert other ships and they did rescue survivors that as little as five years before might have been impossible. When was the previous mid-Atlantic mass rescue on such a scale? Maybe we should remember it more for the lives that could be saved by then, than those lost.
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Post by trubble on Jun 1, 2009 7:06:00 GMT
I'm in cold heartless bitch mode today so forgive me if I offend but what's the point of having Titanic mementoes if not to sell them to make your life more comfortable? All that pity for her really bugged me.
Yes, I know her dad died and that's awful and I am sure it would be the worst thing to have his death depicted in various films and always on people's minds but she was only 2 months old at the time, she never knew him.
As the last survivor she was a curio, a Titanic-fan's ultimate prize, and that's why she was so commented on. In reality, who cares very much past the novelty factor.
Yes, I really feel a bitch for saying it but her story invoked no real emotion in me except for the part where I admired whichever charity it was that had the brains to guilt trip Winslet and DiCaprio. Bright idea!
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Post by trubble on Jun 1, 2009 7:16:20 GMT
It's worth remembering tht there were survivors because it's often put over as a disaster of such proportions that we wouldn't expect any survivors at all. In some ways it's very much a success story because for all the inadequate life-support, it could use radio to alert other ships and they did rescue survivors that as little as five years before might have been impossible. When was the previous mid-Atlantic mass rescue on such a scale? Maybe we should remember it more for the lives that could be saved by then, than those lost. Did you watch the recentish Channel 4 documentary about it? (hmmm Was it CH4??). They went through all the various events that went wrong, from the look-out's binoculars being missing to the accountants ordering the slightly cheaper rivets. The reasons for the sinking are many and in the end the conclusion seems to be that it was 'a series of errors'. The one that upset me was Jack Phillips being a grumpy little sod and irritating his nearby ships by being rude. The ship near them, that could have reached them within the 2 hour sinking time and therefore saved them, turned its receiver off for the night allegedly fed up with Phillips. And I always thought he was a hero, signalling for help as the ship went down.  |
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Post by markindurham on Jun 1, 2009 8:29:50 GMT
<<The one that upset me was Jack Phillips being a grumpy little sod and irritating his nearby ships by being rude. The ship near them, that could have reached them within the 2 hour sinking time and therefore saved them, turned its receiver off for the night allegedly fed up with Phillips.>> Yes, this was 'commercial greed' trumping safety - now, where else has this happened?  (Phillips wanted to send telegrams for passengers - a nice little earner...) But it wasn't simply 'switching off the receiver' - the Wireless Operator (they only became Officers after the sinking of Titanic; same with Engineers) was going 'off watch'. (Only one on board his ship, in full compliance with the Regulations). |
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Post by Patrick on Jun 1, 2009 11:20:30 GMT
I'm in cold heartless bitch mode today so forgive me if I offend but what's the point of having Titanic mementoes if not to sell them to make your life more comfortable? All that pity for her really bugged me. Yes, I know her dad died and that's awful and I am sure it would be the worst thing to have his death depicted in various films and always on people's minds but she was only 2 months old at the time, she never knew him. As the last survivor she was a curio, a Titanic-fan's ultimate prize, and that's why she was so commented on. In reality, who cares very much past the novelty factor. Yes, I really feel a bitch for saying it but her story invoked no real emotion in me except for the part where I admired whichever charity it was that had the brains to guilt trip Winslet and DiCaprio. Bright idea! ..........and I shall annoyingly respond (especially if you were RJ) by saying that that is very good point indeed! She had a spurious link, for all that! Although....... When she had grown up a little - and when she could first read properly etc - just imagine the stuff that would have been around - about it all? I'm sure there would have been as much media blather for years afterwards in the same way we have today. Ergo; she possibly would have a clearer picture than most of all the gooings on simply by being chronologically closer to the event? |
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Post by everso on Jun 3, 2009 17:37:01 GMT
Just to let you all know, I watched my "Titanic" dvd this afternoon while doing the ironing.  |
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Post by motorist on Jun 3, 2009 17:41:54 GMT
I watched the Poseidon remake this week. Ye Gods, that was bloody awful, and so full of errors it would be quicker to say which bits were right  |
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Post by Patrick on Jun 3, 2009 17:46:28 GMT
Just to let you all know, I watched my "Titanic" dvd this afternoon while doing the ironing. That's one hell of a lot of ironing Missus! PS. What is "Ironing"? |
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Post by everso on Jun 3, 2009 17:52:46 GMT
Just to let you all know, I watched my "Titanic" dvd this afternoon while doing the ironing. That's one hell of a lot of ironing Missus! PS. What is "Ironing"? No, no. I didn't manage to watch all of it. I got as far as the bit where Rose goes to the mad Irish party in steerage. "What is ironing?" Tut, tut! Mr. E. likes his pants crisply ironed. |
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Jun 3, 2009 17:53:35 GMT
I watched "Alexander - The Final Cut" the other day (the extended super long three and a half hour edition) the battles were horrific! AH |
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Post by everso on Jun 3, 2009 17:58:23 GMT
I watched "Alexander - The Final Cut" the other day (the extended super long three and a half hour edition) the battles were horrific! AH But would it be any good to do the ironing to? That's always my litmus test for a good film. |
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Post by Patrick on Jun 3, 2009 18:10:18 GMT
I have a pure cotton duvet cover (from Habitat) which I used to love ironing. You know those adverts where you see an iron smooth it's way across a piece of material so perfectly you just know it must have been set up? You could/can do that with this cover. Surprisingly satisfying. Crisp undies eh? Mmmmmmm!  Quick way to do ironing? Put it between two cloth covered boards under the mattress How about that "Typewriter" Music? You know the one that goes Deedleleedleleedleleedleleedleleedleleedleleedleleedleleedleleedleleedleleedleleedle PING! Deedleleedleleedleleedleleedleleedleleedleleedleleedleleedle PING! Just like that? |
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Jun 3, 2009 19:54:13 GMT
I watched "Alexander - The Final Cut" the other day (the extended super long three and a half hour edition) the battles were horrific! AH But would it be any good to do the ironing to? That's always my litmus test for a good film. You may find yourself trying to form a phalanx and beat off a Persian cavalry charge at some stage, but yeah, I reckon it's an ironing-friendly kinda flick. AH |
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Post by Patrick on Jun 3, 2009 20:27:38 GMT
Anyway! According to the most recent Paris fashion shows (of which I am - like - todally up on!) the "Wrinkled" look is the this years Black Donchaknow! ;D
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Post by everso on Jun 4, 2009 11:25:12 GMT
I hate anything looking wrinkled.
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Post by Patrick on Jun 4, 2009 11:51:29 GMT
I hate anything looking wrinkled. I'm not going anywhere near that remark........  |
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Although I'm pleased to see it didn't quite work out that way....
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(Phillips wanted to send telegrams for passengers - a nice little earner...)
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