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Post by everso on Jun 4, 2009 21:49:05 GMT
UKIP for me.
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Post by jean on Jun 4, 2009 21:56:21 GMT
I can't see the point of voting for UKIP in local elections, since their single policy is something that can only be decided at national government level.
We didn't have local elections this time, so I didn't vote.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2009 23:06:09 GMT
I have to agree with Jean . Sorry Everso - a wasted vote .
No locals
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Post by Patrick on Jun 5, 2009 8:47:50 GMT
Results wise - I see Lincolnshire's declared - and kicked out 15 Labour and replaced them with Conservatives! I really can't understand how people are that stupid. Vote for a mixture of "different" councillors by all means but don't be complete sheep. Then again - we are talking about Lincolnshire!
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Post by Patrick on Jun 5, 2009 9:13:49 GMT
The News Channels are making a pig's ear of all this. Nothing - but NOTHING is happening at this moment in time, and they have nothing to report! It's a wonderful exercise in stretching nothing too extremes!
Oh! that's funny - someone's just said "John Major went on to win an election......" Er...... he didn't exactly win though did he? Just sort of squeezed through the letter box crushing everything in the process really. Not the best analogy to make really!
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Post by Patrick on Jun 5, 2009 12:57:08 GMT
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Jun 5, 2009 14:03:54 GMT
Labour are taking a right bottom pounding... AH
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Post by jean on Jun 5, 2009 14:07:07 GMT
Which the Tories deserve every bit as much.
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Post by Patrick on Jun 5, 2009 14:57:06 GMT
Christ! Even Lancashire's fallen to the Tories!
Imbeciles!
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Post by Patrick on Jun 5, 2009 16:20:26 GMT
Electoral View from The North......Martin Wainwright in The Grauniad: Well, I've done my bit at the polling station but not with vast enthusiasm. The saddest outcome of the political horrors of the last month is the general disillusion. Normally if one party does something dreadful, or just stays in power that bit too long, there's an alternative that looks bright, clean and cheerful. People don't feel that way in the north at the moment. I was vox-popping this week in Hazel Blears's constituency of Salford, and the wholesale anger with her - not one exception - was paralleled by deep frustration. Who do we vote for? Denis MacShane, the Labour MP for Rotherham, phoned me later in the day to chat about the article and point out that Labour held on to a Salford council seat last week, reasonably respectably. Why, we both wondered (because he acknowledges public fury over the expenses revelations)? Those who take the trouble to turn out haven't yet found a better bet. That was the most enthusiastic reason we could muster. But how many did vote? A mere 17.5%, according to the Salford Advertiser www.salfordadvertiser.co.uk/news/s/1116766_labour_hold_salford_seat
Among universally anti-Blears comments on the story, Bob Jeffrey adds that Labour's winning share was just 7% of the people in Irwell Riverside ward. Yet the headline on the piece in the paper is 'The Blears effect helped, say Labour'. Is this Salford, or Dreamland? Still, the polling clerks were very cheerful when I voted in Leeds, and not just because their portable toilet arrived at the same time as me. They were spending their portaday in a Portakabin and it was very cosy, appropriately for the trickle of us doing our duty. Two hours into voting, I was elector No 10. I could at least promise them that Penny, my wife, would be coming. My photographer colleague Chris Thomond was meanwhile hunting for an appropriately northern-ethnic polling station to illustrate analysis of the threat to Labour's last four shires (Lancashire, Nottinghamshire, Staffordshire and Derbyshire). "I've got one in Burnley," he texted exultantly mid-afternoon, to wind me up because he knows my views on northern cliche. "It's in a terrace house, and there's an old gentleman with flat cap on his way to vote." All it needed was local star Hollie Steel, the mini-Gracie Fields of Britain's Got Talent, skipping about on the cobbles. She's "a normal little girl again" www.burnleyexpress.net/burnleynews/39Britain39s-Got-Talent39-starlet-Hollie.5320830.jp after her defeat, you'll be glad to see from the headline in the Burnley Express, though her mum actually says rather ominously: "It's back to normality for a short while now."
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Post by housesparrow on Jun 5, 2009 16:30:00 GMT
It makes not the slightest difference how we vote round here because the Conservatives always romp in. We only have three choices and I disagree with the Lib Dems over something they are proposing locally.
The Labour candidate clearly seems a paper candidate - he lives in the next town, has an Arab-sounding name and has not a chance of getting in. Still, a lost deposit is always sad so I voted for him. It would be funny if everyone else did the same though; what would the poor chap do?
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Post by everso on Jun 5, 2009 16:47:36 GMT
I can't see the point of voting for UKIP in local elections, since their single policy is something that can only be decided at national government level. We didn't have local elections this time, so I didn't vote. I just didn't feel I could vote for Conservatives or Lib Dems and definitely not Labour. I don't agree with much of what the Greens say and the BNP is not for me. My vote was a protest vote really. Lib Dems got in.
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Post by jean on Jun 5, 2009 16:51:03 GMT
Worst local election news so farThe BNP has won its first seat on an English county council with a victory in Lancashire, where Labour's 20-year-rule has ended.
The far-right party took the Padiham and Burnley West ward, its principal stronghold in the north-west, where it already has four district councillors...
...The BNP's victory in the ward, with 30% of the vote, buoyed local activists' hopes of getting the party's leader, Nick Griffin, elected as an MEP on Sunday night. He needs around 8% of the vote to take a north-west seat, against the 6.4% he polled in 2004.
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Jun 5, 2009 16:56:22 GMT
That's democracy Jean, they have built on previous results in the area, so maybe they are doing something right and listening to their voters and delivering what they have promised.
AH
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Post by jean on Jun 5, 2009 17:13:38 GMT
I know it's democracy, but I don't have to like it.
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Jun 5, 2009 17:19:42 GMT
I know it's democracy, but I don't have to like it. No, but you do have to ask why decent people are voting for the BNP. Have they suddenly become "evil racists" (tm) overnight, or does it go a bit deeper than that... AH
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Post by jean on Jun 5, 2009 21:17:32 GMT
A bit shallower, I'd say.
It's true the BNP does go round knocking on doors and showing how much they care...but they also produce simplistic analyses along the lines of how the immigrants have stolen your jobs, your houses, and are getting fat on your benefits.
(And then when they get elected as councillors, they don't even bother to attend council meetings.)
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Post by Patrick on Jun 5, 2009 22:12:33 GMT
Worst local election news so farThe BNP has won its first seat on an English county council with a victory in Lancashire, where Labour's 20-year-rule has ended.
The far-right party took the Padiham and Burnley West ward, its principal stronghold in the north-west, where it already has four district councillors...
...The BNP's victory in the ward, with 30% of the vote, buoyed local activists' hopes of getting the party's leader, Nick Griffin, elected as an MEP on Sunday night. He needs around 8% of the vote to take a north-west seat, against the 6.4% he polled in 2004. Yes, I've already left a comment on the pages of the Lancashire Evening Post. More to do with the incompetence of the Country Council and it's ignorance of all things North of Preston really. but there y'go.
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