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Post by tarzanontarmazepam on Jul 5, 2010 19:47:37 GMT
The biggest pile of shit I've ever seen. My mother swears by it...'it's good' she'll say. Would you live there? This place is so dangerous even Cali in Colombia is safer.  |
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Post by Weyland on Jul 5, 2010 20:22:11 GMT
The biggest pile of shit I've ever seen. My mother swears by it...'it's good' she'll say. Would you live there? This place is so dangerous even Cali in Colombia is safer. I'd rather live in Ystad. But it's touch and go. The beer's probably cheaper in Midsomerland. If one gets time to drink it. |
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Post by aubrey on Jul 6, 2010 9:32:05 GMT
I like detective stuff, but I can't stick this. I get a sinking feeling when it starts.
Typically, there will be a semi-secret society with a silly name, which everyone will keep repeating very seriously. And it's full of types - like the over-done amateur actor, who was very like Luvvie Darling out of Viz (then again, amateur actors are always shown like this on TV programmes). Yes, much rather live in Ystad.
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Post by everso on Jul 6, 2010 10:25:51 GMT
I watch so little t.v. that I wonder we even bother having one.
Last night we did watch a programme on BBC1: a kind of Masterchef meets Antiques Roadshow, hosted by Sandi Toksvig who I really like. Unfortunately, it was the dullest thing I've seen for ages.
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 6, 2010 10:51:26 GMT
I'm really not a big fan of 'crime drama' per se.
There's something a bit sick about delivering up murder - often gruesome murder - for the titillation of the middle classes. I know that stories - books, films, tv programmes - about murder and police investigations and the like are staples of our entertainment industry, and I think that reveals a prurient and unpleasant part of ourselves that we like them so much.
Real murders happen all the time, and they're not like the ones on the telly.
As the Sex Pistols once sang, "a cheap holiday in other peoples' misery."
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Post by housesparrow on Jul 6, 2010 11:53:15 GMT
Midsomer Murders is drivel, but it is the kind of "comfort viewing" programme I can watch on a bad day. You've got village life as we used to know it, a bit of humour, some odd goings on...not to mention an impossible plot. It soothes me into sleep and I awake to find that Mr Lark has switched to "Top gear" or something.
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Post by motorist on Jul 6, 2010 12:50:49 GMT
Midsomer Murders is a big load of greasy cockspots  |
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Post by Weyland on Jul 6, 2010 13:24:11 GMT
Midsomer Murders is a big load of greasy cockspots Really? And how would you know that, Moto? |
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Post by motorist on Jul 6, 2010 14:30:30 GMT
Midsomer Murders is a big load of greasy cockspots Really? And how would you know that, Moto? Forensic examination of stuff found in second hand shops ;D |
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Post by Weyland on Jul 6, 2010 14:52:20 GMT
Forensic examination of stuff found in second hand shops ;D That explains everything! Plus it's a pretty good description of the source of any TV "plot" involving John Nettles. Better than working, wot? |
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Post by everso on Jul 6, 2010 16:31:23 GMT
I'm really not a big fan of 'crime drama' per se. There's something a bit sick about delivering up murder - often gruesome murder - for the titillation of the middle classes. I know that stories - books, films, tv programmes - about murder and police investigations and the like are staples of our entertainment industry, and I think that reveals a prurient and unpleasant part of ourselves that we like them so much. Real murders happen all the time, and they're not like the ones on the telly. As the Sex Pistols once sang, "a cheap holiday in other peoples' misery." I wouldn't have thought that the middle classes were alone in liking programmes about crime fiction. |
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 6, 2010 16:49:51 GMT
I'm really not a big fan of 'crime drama' per se. There's something a bit sick about delivering up murder - often gruesome murder - for the titillation of the middle classes. I know that stories - books, films, tv programmes - about murder and police investigations and the like are staples of our entertainment industry, and I think that reveals a prurient and unpleasant part of ourselves that we like them so much. Real murders happen all the time, and they're not like the ones on the telly. As the Sex Pistols once sang, "a cheap holiday in other peoples' misery." I wouldn't have thought that the middle classes were alone in liking programmes about crime fiction. True, true. For everyone. They're just titillation for everyone. |
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 6, 2010 16:53:24 GMT
But your concern to preserve the good reputation of the middle classes is duly noted.
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Jul 6, 2010 17:03:16 GMT
Fucking philistines.  I quite enjoy this show, like Poirot, Sherlock Holmes and a few others, it doesn't rely on gratuitous sex, violence and swearing to get it's point across. I'll probably get this on DVD, but I need to get Foyles War first. AH |
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Post by aubrey on Jul 6, 2010 17:10:11 GMT
Can't accept that, the titilation thing. Detective stories are about restoration of order - (PD James's phrase, or something like it). My problem with Midsomer is that the murder doesn't really matter, and doesn't mean anything much - it's just a dull puzzle.
My favourite murder stories are those of DL Sayers - classic, complicated puzzles, but carried out with real people, so you don't really see it as a puzzle. They are incredibly well written as well, and worth reading just for that.
With detective stuff, what really matters most to me is the same as with everything else - I go for the atmosphere. So, I like Christie's Miss Marple books but not the Poirot, all Ruth Rendell's and Barbara Vine's ("A Fatal Inversion" has a really good description of what it might be like to have committed a murder, and gotten away with it - IE, you never really do, unless you're a bit of a psychopath), and some others. Not all, though.
"Other people's misery" - actually, no one gets killed in a murder story, so no real misery.
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 6, 2010 17:14:49 GMT
Aubrey, let's talk about the titillation thing.
People flock to buy books, magazines, newspapers (for example) to read about the brutality of famous killers like the Wests or Ian Brady.
Why? Why do some people need to know the full details of acts of depravity and cruelty? What's the thrill there?
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Jul 6, 2010 17:18:31 GMT
I like the ones I've mentioned because they are fairly laid back, no gun battles, car chases etc.
I do like that stuff, but not all the time, I love "The Shield" (full of violence and action) for example, but that is a cop show, and cop shows are creature than murder mysteries.
AH
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Post by housesparrow on Jul 6, 2010 17:22:24 GMT
That has jogged my memory. I rashly offered to do a Survivors thingy on favourite fictional detectives. Maybe I'll leave it till the autumn when more people are posting.
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Jul 6, 2010 17:24:45 GMT
That has jogged my memory. I rashly offered to do a Survivors thingy on favourite fictional detectives. Maybe I'll leave it till the autumn when more people are posting. Sherlock Holmes FTW!!!  AH |
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Post by aubrey on Jul 6, 2010 17:25:32 GMT
Aubrey, let's talk about the titillation thing. People flock to buy books, magazines, newspapers (for example) to read about the brutality of famous killers like the Wests or Ian Brady. Why? Why do some people need to know the full details of acts of depravity and cruelty? What's the thrill there? That's real murder, though. I have kept away from the Brady and West books, etc, as I don't want that kind of thing in my head (I do like Colin Wilson, though). DL Sayers is completely different. And James and Rendell and Morse. And Midsomer, come to that. |
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