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Post by Weyland on Nov 9, 2010 17:29:06 GMT
If you only have a shower you really need a bidet as well. The Italians know this. Can't agree with that. Not if you have a proper shower, with enough pressure and a nozzle that isn't permanently attached to the wall/ceiling, like many hotel showers, especially in my experience in the US and Canada, of all places. That kind is just gormless. You've tested it? I can only think that you must be using a very shallow bath. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2010 17:37:15 GMT
If you only have a shower you really need a bidet as well. The Italians know this. Can't agree with that. Not if you have a proper shower, with enough pressure and a nozzle that isn't permanently attached to the wall/ceiling, like many hotel showers, especially in my experience in the US and Canada, of all places. That kind is just gormless. You've tested it? I can only think that you must be using a very shallow bath. in the house i grew up in, my parents had renovations, this included bidets being installed in the refurbished upstairs bathroom and also in the new downstairs toilet ( the kitchen was extended and a downstairs toilet put in) i was never qwuite sure why they wanted bidets, perhaps i should ask them nexty time we speak. weird they were.. mainly i used em to wash my feet in. using them for their purported use always seemed a bit curious to me.. where do others stand on bidets? i just feel theyre a bit alien to british culture. |
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Post by Weyland on Nov 9, 2010 17:43:19 GMT
in the house i grew up in, my parents had renovations, this included bidets being installed in the refurbished upstairs bathroom and also in the new downstairs toilet ( the kitchen was extended and a downstairs toilet put in) i was never qwuite sure why they wanted bidets, perhaps i should ask them nexty time we speak. weird they were.. mainly i used em to wash my feet in. using them for their purported use always seemed a bit curious to me.. where do others stand on bidets? i just feel theyre a bit alien to british culture. I like bidets, but I've never stood on one. They're not really necessary if you have a proper shower in the house, but handy nevertheless, largely because you don't need to get your feet wet. And just the thing to keep the coal in on bath day. Many caffs in Spain have bidets in the toilets. Not sure about the utility of that level of service. |
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Post by housesparrow on Nov 9, 2010 17:46:21 GMT
I haven't got a shower - well I have got one of those shower head things that lies across the top of the taps, in keeping with the rest of my restored Edwardian bathroom. It's a bit of a nuisance sometimes, but if I had to have one or the other, I'd have a bath every time. If you only have a shower you really need a bidet as well. The Italians know this. One thing I've never quite understood is why we're always told a shower uses less water than a bath. I've tested this, and unless you have a very short shower indeed, it just isn't true. I've never been to Italy, only Sicily, in a rather scruffy hotel with fairly old facilities. But the hotel put a chair in the shower room for you to sit in while you put your feet in the bidet. That was civilised, especially as we were on a walking holiday. We once had a power shower over a bath and Jean is right; if we put the plug in, we had a tubfull in no time at all. It depends too on the type of showerhead you use: see ezinearticles.com/?Saving-Water---The-Bath-vs-Shower-Debate&id=256101 |
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Post by aubrey on Nov 9, 2010 17:55:34 GMT
Barry Mackenzie reckoned Bidets were for leaning over for a chunder while you're having a tom tit; they're just in the right position.
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Post by jean on Nov 9, 2010 18:02:42 GMT
The Italians are so keen on bidets that even the cheapest hotels that haven't got one plumbed in will give you a sort of stand with a bowl on it.
Another way I know how much water people use when they shower is the time I have spent in YHs and (very) cheap B & Bs waithing for someone else to finish.
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Post by jean on Nov 9, 2010 18:16:42 GMT
This is the sort of shower-head I have got:  But I probably should have gone for one of these instead:  |
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Post by Weyland on Nov 9, 2010 18:36:59 GMT
This is the sort of shower-head I have got: But I probably should have gone for one of these instead: The first one is no substitute for a bidet. The other one -- I don't know. One needs a reasonably high-pressure jet that can target one's ..er.. bits. (Ev says "undercarriage", which can hardly be misunderstood.) A "bidet" comprised of "a sort of stand with a bowl on it" sounds about as much use as a damp roll of Andrex. Mamma mia! |
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Post by housesparrow on Nov 9, 2010 19:53:15 GMT
Come to think of it, the "bidet" in the Sicilian hotel was nothing of the sort; it was just a bowl with a chair. It was for soaking feet, not for washing bits that could have been washed under the shower.
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Post by Patrick on Nov 9, 2010 23:47:35 GMT
That's a bit naughty really. (Of the power shower). If you have a non-electric shower and your water pressure is a bit high you can apply for an Eaga Shower Smart A little gadget that presumably lowers the pressure for your shower only. We've got one but our mains tap isn't turned up fantastically high anyway so we don't need the one we've got. Should I get round to turning it up though...... It basically screws into your tap set before you screw in your shower hose. To find out if your shower is too powerful they give you this plastic bag - you put the shower head in it and turn it on for ten seconds - if the bag fills up over the line then you need the Shower Saver. It's an interesting website too. www.eaga.com/ |
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Post by everso on Nov 10, 2010 1:37:02 GMT
Barry Mackenzie reckoned Bidets were for leaning over for a chunder while you're having a tom tit; they're just in the right position.  |
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Post by everso on Nov 10, 2010 1:47:15 GMT
I'm not keen on power showers. Apart from the fact that they do indeed use a lot more water (and we have a water meter), they kind of take my breath away. I like a fairly calm sort of shower. Not a dribble, but reasonably fast flowing, just not Niagara Falls. Jean, I usually spend about 5 minutes or so under the shower - my hair is only short so doesn't take long to wash - and I always put the plug in. The water doesn't come more than a couple of inches up the bath. I concede that if you've long hair that takes lots of rinsing and maybe you plan to shave your legs and whatnot then you'd use a bit more water, but unless you only have shallow baths you'd have to spend a pretty long while under my shower before the bath was sufficiently full.
The only time I have a bath is if I have any achey muscles and I need to relax. Apart from that, I shower every day. I really can't be arsed with all the performance of running the bath, lighting the candles, pouring the wine etc.
Bidets are too continental for me.
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Post by housesparrow on Nov 10, 2010 6:48:03 GMT
The other advantage of a bath is that you can reuse the water for flushing the loo , rinsing out waterproof trousers caked with med, or whatever.
And sometimes our weekend visitor hops in after me. I'm not sure he has got the hang of our taps yet, because he prefers to do that than run a fresh bath.
And Everso, I can think of better uses for wine than pouring it in the bath.
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Post by Patrick on Nov 10, 2010 8:59:31 GMT
And Everso, I can think of better uses for wine than pouring it in the bath. A whole new meaning to a bath giving you a "rosé complexion"  |
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Post by Weyland on Nov 10, 2010 11:17:04 GMT
And sometimes our weekend visitor hops in after me. I'm not sure he has got the hang of our taps yet, because he prefers to do that than run a fresh bath.  |
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Post by housesparrow on Nov 10, 2010 11:25:08 GMT
Oh, he doies wait for me to get out first, Weyland. We are not that friendly.
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Post by jean on Nov 10, 2010 11:43:18 GMT
OH and I do that.
I can remember the time when I was so svelte that I could fit in the bath at the same time as another person, though...
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Post by jean on Nov 10, 2010 11:46:09 GMT
Mostly when I have showers it's at the swimming pool.
Can anyone explain how there is ONE shower there that is fast-flowing and powerful, while all the others are dribbly and useless?
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Post by Weyland on Nov 10, 2010 12:10:21 GMT
Can anyone explain how there is ONE shower there that is fast-flowing and powerful, while all the others are dribbly and useless? It's a microcosm of the human condition, or something. |
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Post by Patrick on Nov 10, 2010 12:53:46 GMT
They can't afford a pump and all the pipes are sloping the wrong way.
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