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Post by Weyland on Jul 8, 2011 19:28:00 GMT
I can't bear faux Cockneys. Nigel Kennedy. |
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Post by everso on Jul 8, 2011 21:33:51 GMT
Jamie Oliver
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 14, 2011 12:41:39 GMT
As predicted, the robotic Natasha went the way of all flesh last night - oot. Booted right oot.
Even on the Dara show afterwards she failed to demonstrate the slightest semblance of a personality beyond David Brentesque comments.
My prediction now is Tom or Helen to win, with Susan an outside chance. Or will Jedi Jim suprise us all and pull it out the bag at the last minute?
Although Tom and Helen's pie shop was a bit like a BNP rally . . .
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Post by housesparrow on Jul 14, 2011 13:10:30 GMT
Tom and Helen's pie shop was a bit like a BNP rally . . . No, Riot, no! We need to reclaim the Union Flag back from the neo-fascists who have shamefully purloined it. We must display it proudly for the whole of Britain and everyone in it. Well, England and Wales at any rate, and probably also Northern Ireland. |
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Post by everso on Jul 14, 2011 13:47:05 GMT
Well, I watched it again last night. I predict Helen. Tom is a bit of a drip and I don't think Jim'll be able to fix it so he wins. Susie's definitely out. She really gets on my nerves with her incessant yakity-yakity-yak-whinge-whinge. I was shocked that (1) Jim, Susie and Natasha didn't know that Caracas was in Venezuela, and (2) that Helen and Tom thought Christopher Columbus was English.  |
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Post by Weyland on Jul 14, 2011 14:22:56 GMT
Well, I watched it again last night. I predict Helen. Tom is a bit of a drip and I don't think Jim'll be able to fix it so he wins. Susie's definitely out. She really gets on my nerves with her incessant yakity-yakity-yak-whinge-whinge. I was shocked that (1) Jim, Susie and Natasha didn't know that Caracas was in Venezuela, and (2) that Helen and Tom thought Christopher Columbus was English. Shocked, yet strangely unsurprised. They demonstrate every week that they have no general knowledge beyond that of Wayne Rooney. And Suzie's probably never heard of him either. Even the academic Natasha had forgotten what she worked so hard to learn on her Hospitality degree, namely advanced napkin-folding techniques and chronic Irritable Vowel Disorder. (. . . Actually, not the latter, which she has developed beyond the dreams of Janet Street-Porter.) Caracas the Mexican restaurant, Columbus the famous Englishman, and "peppers have nothing to do with Mexican food". Not to mention "what does El mean?" and 60x7=4000. I still cannot believe that Sralan will actually give £250,000 to any of these shallow and ignorant twerps, even Helen. But if he does, it has to be Helen. (Who I'm sure works for Greggs — I wonder what they make of her patchy performance.) Tom — marginally less useless than the below. Suzie — might make a career as a trainee temp waitress. Jim — can't count past Ichiban (Number One). |
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 14, 2011 14:54:08 GMT
But then . . and I might be misremembering this - did Nick or someone not say Columbus was Italian?
And is he not either Portugese or from Barcelona? (Do both not claim him?)
- - (Short google break - talk amongs yourselves.)
OK, have googled and I'm wrong. He was born in Genoa (modern day Italy) but he sailed under the auspices of the Spanish monarchy. I can't remember why they have a monument to him at the seafront in Barcelona, but presumably he sailed from there or something.
Oh and this . .
Some modern historians have argued that Columbus was not from Genoa, but instead, from Catalonia,[11] Portugal,[12] or Spain.[13] These competing hypotheses have generally been discounted by mainstream scholars (from Wiki)
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Post by Weyland on Jul 14, 2011 15:06:58 GMT
But then . . and I might be misremembering this - did Nick or someone not say Columbus was Italian? ..er.. You mean that's not common knowledge? Do I also need to mention that he had nothing to do with bringing potatoes to Europe? (As suggested by Tom and agreed by Helen.) God help us all. Perhaps this is something like what happened to the Roman Empire. |
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 14, 2011 15:23:46 GMT
Hey, I KNEW he wasn't the tatty man!!!
I was just confused because I remember the memorial to him at the seafront in Barca. I had fallen prey to historical falsification by corrupt politicians. (See also Alexander the Greek.)
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Post by Weyland on Jul 14, 2011 16:22:25 GMT
Hey, I KNEW he wasn't the tatty man!!! I was just confused because I remember the memorial to him at the seafront in Barca. I had fallen prey to historical falsification by corrupt politicians. (See also Alexander the Greek.) From Wiki: " The Columbus Monument (Monument a Colom in Catalan, also known as the Monumento a Colón and Mirador de Colón in Spanish) is a 60 m (197 ft) tall monument for Christopher Columbus at the lower end of La Rambla, Barcelona, Spain. It was constructed for the Exposición Universal de Barcelona (1888) and is located at the site where Columbus returned to Spain after his first voyage to the Americas.[1] The monument serves as a reminder that Barcelona is where Christopher Columbus reported to Queen Isabella and Ferdinand after Columbus' most famous trip." I dare say we've all learned something. (Unlike the candidates, I'd guess.) |
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Post by everso on Jul 14, 2011 16:23:11 GMT
But then . . and I might be misremembering this - did Nick or someone not say Columbus was Italian? ..er.. You mean that's not common knowledge? Do I also need to mention that he had nothing to do with bringing potatoes to Europe? (As suggested by Tom and agreed by Helen.) God help us all. Perhaps this is something like what happened to the Roman Empire. I knew he wasn't English (he's a FOREIGNER!) but I thought he was Spanish. I googled and learnt he was from Genoa (no never met her before - boom boom). I probably thought he was Spanish because I remember all the talk of him when I visited Barcelona. At least I knew he wasn't English..... But, but, but, WILLIAM Drake? I mean to say. And Shakespeare being on nodding terms with BYRON? Huh? I could sort of excuse them if they were, say 13 or 14, but these people are adults, and supposedly well educated. They know all the right words to use, how to talk the talk, but they seem complete dunces. |
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Post by everso on Jul 14, 2011 16:25:27 GMT
Hey, I KNEW he wasn't the tatty man!!! I was just confused because I remember the memorial to him at the seafront in Barca. I had fallen prey to historical falsification by corrupt politicians. (See also Alexander the Greek.) From Wiki: " The Columbus Monument (Monument a Colom in Catalan, also known as the Monumento a Colón and Mirador de Colón in Spanish) is a 60 m (197 ft) tall monument for Christopher Columbus at the lower end of La Rambla, Barcelona, Spain. It was constructed for the Exposición Universal de Barcelona (1888) and is located at the site where Columbus returned to Spain after his first voyage to the Americas.[1] The monument serves as a reminder that Barcelona is where Christopher Columbus reported to Queen Isabella and Ferdinand after Columbus' most famous trip." I dare say we've all learned something. (Unlike the candidates, I'd guess.) Wasn't his name Cristobel Colón in Spanish? I'm sure I remember that. He SHOULD have been Spanish. |
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Post by Weyland on Jul 14, 2011 17:10:34 GMT
They know all the right words to use, how to talk the talk, but they seem complete dunces. Excellent, excellent, summary, Ev. Mind you, according to the series intro, these are the outstanding British entrepreneurs of the age. What would we know? . . . This is what we know: If Sugar gives any of them money, he'll be the ace dunce. |
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Post by aubrey on Jul 14, 2011 18:55:57 GMT
I knew Columbus was Italian but only because Zappa complained about not being able to get a decent pizza in his birth place during the Italian leg of a tour. (Uncooked dough, with a can of mushrooms poured over it.) I would have thought Spanish.
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Post by Weyland on Jul 14, 2011 20:57:23 GMT
I knew Columbus was Italian but only because Zappa complained about not being able to get a decent pizza in his birth place during the Italian leg of a tour. (Uncooked dough, with a can of mushrooms poured over it.) I would have thought Spanish. Well, I know that the pizza was invented in New York City by Dr Oetker in the Middle Ages, but I also know that I've had good pizza in Italy and lousy pizza in NYC. Go figure. |
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 17, 2011 19:48:00 GMT
Fifteen minutes until the Final! Am so excited!
Had the best duvet day ever today. Woke up with a small baby to play with (they took it away from me again later), the whole Hacking scandal playing out minute by minute, and now the Apprentice final.
I have finally been persuaded of Twitter. It's wonderful. I'm following all kinds of journalists and reporters and getting second by second analysis, news and opinions. It's like having your own personalised ticker tape of instant news.
I'm loving Twitter. Never thought I'd say it, but I'm a believer now.
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Post by riotgrrl on Jul 17, 2011 19:50:47 GMT
Alan Sugar is tweeting live during the Apprentice final. I think Twitter and the Apprentice final is giong to prove a winning combination for my evening's entertainment!
Go Tom! I'm rooting for you!
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Post by everso on Jul 17, 2011 22:24:34 GMT
Well, I didn't see that coming. That is, not until the last 15 minutes or so. Then the scales fell from my eyes as I realised that Alan Sugar had probably marked out Tom right from the beginning. He's an inventor. Sugar's the businessman. Inventor+businessman = success (probably). And thinking about it, Lord ( :  Sugar gave Tom so many chances when he was called back to the boardroom. It's obvious to me that Alan Sugar had picked Tom out very early on. |
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Post by Weyland on Jul 18, 2011 7:58:08 GMT
It's obvious to me that Alan Sugar had picked Tom out very early on. I think you're right. I wish I could say I'd seen it coming, but in fact I thought it was too good to wish for. I actually thought near the end that he might let Helen work with Tom. The engineer won. Natural justice. Perhaps there IS a God. [My only regret is that Melody never had to face the interview music. Imagine the fun they'd have had slicing and dicing her.] |
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Post by housesparrow on Jul 18, 2011 8:39:33 GMT
I'm wondering now if the series was a complete waste of time. Shouldn't the candidates have been asked to write their business plans in advance - or at least give some indication of what their ideas are?
If I had been one of the earlier rejected candidates, I might have felt a bit miffed. I'm sure most of them had better plans than Helen's or even Susie's - (the world is full of cosmetics from natural ingredients).
Jim's idea might have had merit if only he had thought through some possible sources of funding.
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Sugar gave Tom so many chances when he was called back to the boardroom. It's obvious to me that Alan Sugar had picked Tom out very early on.