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Post by Weyland on Oct 25, 2011 7:10:49 GMT
No I haven't noticed! It doesnt happen on the bits of the internet I frequent. Even on MCL they don't use language like that. Perhaps it's different on GWD...I must check it out sometime. Oh yes, they use language like that on GWD. It's full of complete arseholes . . but also some lovely people. What strikes me about GWD is the sheer pig-headedly consistent awfulness of quite a few of the regulars. It's as if their sole purpose is to show themselves to be as obnoxious as possible. It doesn't half scupper the entertainment possibilities of a board, which is all I'm interested in. To make it easier to understand, perhaps I can shine the light of quantum mechanics upon it: if SC is your Messageboard Particle, then GWD may be seen as the anti-Particle. The people I'm talking about are tightly shackled to dense clouds of anti-Fluffiness. |
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Post by everso on Oct 25, 2011 7:13:39 GMT
But isn't that why we are there? To add a bit of fluffy nonsense to their day?
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Post by Weyland on Oct 25, 2011 7:33:36 GMT
But isn't that why we are there? To add a bit of fluffy nonsense to their day? They're not worthy. |
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Post by bonbonlarue on Oct 25, 2011 7:38:11 GMT
I need lots of fluffy today...  ..I broke a nail this morning  |
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Post by aubrey on Oct 25, 2011 8:28:16 GMT
and Trubble... was Ken Bigley suffering from Downs Syndrome\? Not fair to pull Billy Connolly into this. WHAT? It's exactly the same. Ken Bigley could no more help his situation than people with Downs Syndrome can help theirs. I love Billy Connolly - but I remember reading a quote from him that you can make jokes about anything. I googled it and, obviously, came up first of all with a quote from the Daily Mail. However, I searched around a bit, knowing how suspicious most of you are about the veracity of the Daily Mail, and came up with a BBC piece instead: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/1489361.stm(They probably got it from the Daily Mail anyway ;D) I have a feeling that Billy Connolly might support Ricky Gervais. You can make a joke about anything - I thought that edition of Brass Eye was really funny. But "Good Monging" isn't much of a joke, is it? |
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Post by jean on Oct 25, 2011 8:54:55 GMT
..I broke a nail this morning Try the ones that just bend for a change, bonbon...  |
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Post by bonbonlarue on Oct 25, 2011 10:21:50 GMT
I'm just hoping that nobody makes a joke about my infirmity....could scar me for life...  |
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Post by everso on Oct 25, 2011 14:01:36 GMT
WHAT? It's exactly the same. Ken Bigley could no more help his situation than people with Downs Syndrome can help theirs. I love Billy Connolly - but I remember reading a quote from him that you can make jokes about anything. I googled it and, obviously, came up first of all with a quote from the Daily Mail. However, I searched around a bit, knowing how suspicious most of you are about the veracity of the Daily Mail, and came up with a BBC piece instead: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/1489361.stm(They probably got it from the Daily Mail anyway ;D) I have a feeling that Billy Connolly might support Ricky Gervais. You can make a joke about anything - I thought that edition of Brass Eye was really funny. But "Good Monging" isn't much of a joke, is it? No, I agree, "Good Monging" isn't a joke at all. Actually, I don't agree that jokes can be made about anything. Quite honestly, I would find it strange that anybody could laugh at, say, a joke about child abuse or paedophilia. And laughing at disabled people, especially children, is cruel. How on earth can it possibly be funny under any circumstances? Ricky Gervais has said, though, that the word "mong" is, in his opinion, part of the English language - in much the same way as "idiot" is. He wasn't laughing at people with Down's Syndrome (or "mongolism" as it used to be called - my mum always referred to DS people as "mongols. Not because she was cruel but because that's what they'd always been called). I guess, though, that if you're not keen on Ricky Gervais then you're going to react differently to a similar thing from the likes of Billy Connolly. |
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Post by trubble on Oct 25, 2011 14:05:34 GMT
WHAT? It's exactly the same. Ken Bigley could no more help his situation than people with Downs Syndrome can help theirs. I love Billy Connolly - but I remember reading a quote from him that you can make jokes about anything. I googled it and, obviously, came up first of all with a quote from the Daily Mail. However, I searched around a bit, knowing how suspicious most of you are about the veracity of the Daily Mail, and came up with a BBC piece instead: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/1489361.stm(They probably got it from the Daily Mail anyway ;D) I have a feeling that Billy Connolly might support Ricky Gervais. You can make a joke about anything - I thought that edition of Brass Eye was really funny. But "Good Monging" isn't much of a joke, is it? That was his reply joke, the defiance one, when (following the guardian article) he was bombarded by Twitter addicts telling him how disgusting he was etc etc. Even after he'd tried to explain that he wasn't intentionally mocking people with DS. That was his 'oh shut the fuck up you arses' rolling of the eyes. The actual joke wasn't even a joke, it was him using the word in conversation on his blog, like people use the word 'spaz out'. |
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Post by tarzanontarmazepam on Oct 25, 2011 14:07:10 GMT
You can make a joke about anything - I thought that edition of Brass Eye was really funny. But "Good Monging" isn't much of a joke, is it? No, I agree, "Good Monging" isn't a joke at all. Actually, I don't agree that jokes can be made about anything. Quite honestly, I would find it strange that anybody could laugh at, say, a joke about child abuse or paedophilia. And laughing at disabled people, especially children, is cruel. How on earth can it possibly be funny under any circumstances? Ricky Gervais has said, though, that the word "mong" is, in his opinion, part of the English language - in much the same way as "idiot" is. He wasn't laughing at people with Down's Syndrome (or "mongolism" as it used to be called - my mum always referred to DS people as "mongols. Not because she was cruel but because that's what they'd always been called). I guess, though, that if you're not keen on Ricky Gervais then you're going to react differently to a similar thing from the likes of Billy Connolly. Gervais referred to Susan Boyle in a stand up show as 'looking like a mong!' Now we know what that meant, and I'm afraid he was using the word as meaning 'mongoloid'...his claims of it now having a different meaning being completely untrue. The man is a first class prick! |
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Post by trubble on Oct 25, 2011 14:10:52 GMT
See, I don't want to defend his use of mong, & I don't*, but I hate the reaction to it. He's been lumped in with that comedian who said (as a joke in his routine) that Sarah Palin got a baby with Down Syndrome cos God hated her. And Frankie Boyle (what did he say? I never knew) who was also telling jokes in a routine. There's a difference, I think.
*except to say that it's obviously crept into acceptable language somewhere...
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Post by trubble on Oct 25, 2011 14:15:29 GMT
No, I agree, "Good Monging" isn't a joke at all. Actually, I don't agree that jokes can be made about anything. Quite honestly, I would find it strange that anybody could laugh at, say, a joke about child abuse or paedophilia. And laughing at disabled people, especially children, is cruel. How on earth can it possibly be funny under any circumstances? Ricky Gervais has said, though, that the word "mong" is, in his opinion, part of the English language - in much the same way as "idiot" is. He wasn't laughing at people with Down's Syndrome (or "mongolism" as it used to be called - my mum always referred to DS people as "mongols. Not because she was cruel but because that's what they'd always been called). I guess, though, that if you're not keen on Ricky Gervais then you're going to react differently to a similar thing from the likes of Billy Connolly. Gervais referred to Susan Boyle in a stand up show as 'looking like a mong!' Now we know what that meant, and I'm afraid he was using the word as meaning 'mongoloid'...his claims of it now having a different meaning being completely untrue. The man is a first class prick! No. He's a second or third rate prick at most. Calling someone a mong is something teenage boys or people on the internet do -- not A-List comedians. |
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Post by tarzanontarmazepam on Oct 25, 2011 14:17:06 GMT
See, I don't want to defend his use of mong, & I don't, but I hate the reaction to it. He's been lumped in with that comedian who said (as a joke in his routine) that Sarah Palin got a baby with Down Syndrome cos God hated her. And Frankie Boyle (what did he say? I never knew) who was also telling jokes in a routine. There's a difference, I think. He's a prick too. You have to draw the line. Abuse of the disabled, in particular the mentally disabled is something which has made headlines in recent months. If idiots like Gervais and Boyle are gonna dish this sort of thing out then they deserve everything they get. I'd personally pay good money to see them a get a good kicking.  |
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Post by Weyland on Oct 25, 2011 14:17:35 GMT
The actual joke wasn't even a joke, it was him using the word in conversation on his blog, like people use the word 'spaz out'. Oh, well, that's OK, then. I'll tell my daughter. She uses a wheelchair. Guess why. Clue: She's not a mongtard. |
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Post by tarzanontarmazepam on Oct 25, 2011 14:23:49 GMT
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Post by trubble on Oct 25, 2011 14:25:06 GMT
The actual joke wasn't even a joke, it was him using the word in conversation on his blog, like people use the word 'spaz out'. Oh, well, that's OK, then. I'll tell my daughter. She uses a wheelchair. Guess why. Clue: She's not a mongtard. No, it's not okay. No one says it is. But it is done. And usually without people thinking too deeply about what they are actually saying. A phrase enters the language as if it was fairly harmless. If people stopped to think, they might not use it. That Guardian article demanded that Gervais stopped to think. A few thousand people told him that they wished he would die etc. One of those reactions was fair enough, one was OTT. |
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Post by trubble on Oct 25, 2011 14:36:23 GMT
Well, I told you to read his tweets. |
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Post by trubble on Oct 25, 2011 14:54:20 GMT
Funniest people of the moment? Bill Bailey and John Bishop. Bill doesn't even need to draw breath to be hilarious. Bill Bailey is hilarious. I've seen him doing stand-up and he's adorable. What's his latest project? John Bishop can be funny. Never got a belly-ache from laughing at one of his shows though & he hasn't written and performed hours of seminal material. IMHO. Well, not just IMHO actually. The Office has been supremely successful. Now who else apart from Gervais & Merchant have managed to write good material for wheelchair users (The Office) and people with Cerebral Palsy (Extras)? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesca_MartinezExtras - Kate Winslet as a nun episode - |
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Post by Weyland on Oct 25, 2011 14:54:36 GMT
I never did like the man, and this thread certainly does nothing other than set that in concrete.
The best thing I can summon up to say about him is that he should know better.
Or, as they say in Turkish, ayip! (Shame on you!)
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Post by bonbonlarue on Oct 25, 2011 14:56:35 GMT
Now we're all friends again..can I say that I regularly 'mong' on the sofa....and 'special' has long been a common insult between my children.
Gervais is still a twat.
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