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Post by tarzanontarmazepam on Oct 19, 2011 18:41:09 GMT
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Post by bonbonlarue on Oct 19, 2011 22:26:09 GMT
Nothing to do with the word. Any word that smug, self satisfied twat uses is offensive to me...
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Post by tarzanontarmazepam on Oct 19, 2011 23:24:22 GMT
Nothing to do with the word. Any word that smug, self satisfied twat uses is offensive to me... Hear hear bonbon. |
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Post by Alpha Hooligan on Oct 19, 2011 23:58:25 GMT
One of the most cringe-worthy, unfunny and overrated twats ever.
AH
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Post by Weyland on Oct 21, 2011 12:41:58 GMT
One of the most cringe-worthy, unfunny and overrated twats ever. AH Hear, here! Thought I was the only one who knew that. I love us Crouch People. |
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Post by everso on Oct 22, 2011 16:09:13 GMT
I loved The Office and Extras.  |
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Post by Weyland on Oct 22, 2011 16:19:27 GMT
I loved The Office and Extras. It's not a crime. |
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Post by everso on Oct 22, 2011 16:21:29 GMT
Thank heavens for that!
I think he's funny but, agreed, occasionally a bit o.t.t.
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Post by aubrey on Oct 23, 2011 9:12:15 GMT
Richard Herring's been pretty good about this, resulting in a flaming war from Gervais fans who think he's just jealous (who also didn't actually read what he said). Also he points out that while a lot of people who tweeted him were happy to call him a Mong, when a disabled (with CP) woman said pretty much the same as Herring had, none of the Gervais fans who tweeted her seemed to think that calling her a Mong was appropriate. Starts here and goes on for a few days. |
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Post by Weyland on Oct 23, 2011 10:28:14 GMT
Richard Herring's been pretty good about this, resulting in a flaming war from Gervais fans who think he's just jealous (who also didn't actually read what he said). Also he points out that while a lot of people who tweeted him were happy to call him a Mong, when a disabled (with CP) woman said pretty much the same as Herring had, none of the Gervais fans who tweeted her seemed to think that calling her a Mong was appropriate. Starts here and goes on for a few days.Hadn't realised how profound the twatness was. Just thought he was yet another overrated not-very-funny comic very much up his own elbow. |
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Post by jean on Oct 23, 2011 18:06:41 GMT
I loved The Office and Extras. Me too - but when I first saw them, I didn't realise that Gervais wasn't acting. |
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Post by jean on Oct 23, 2011 18:19:17 GMT
The Guardian article chris linked to said:
The best comment on the issue remains Herring's, whose Twitter feed is full of abuse – and praise – for making a stand. He said: "Just a thought, but if you think mong only means idiot, why not just use the word idiot?"
I think it's only fair to point out that idiot isn't entirely in the clear:
idiot 2.
a. Chiefly Law and Psychiatry. A person so profoundly disabled in mental function or intellect as to be incapable of ordinary acts of reasoning or rational conduct; spec. a person permanently so affected, as distinguished from one with a temporary severe mental illness. Now hist. in technical use.
By the older legal authorities in England an idiot was defined as a person congenitally deficient in reasoning powers (cf. quot. 1590), and this remained for a long time the common implication of the term.
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Post by everso on Oct 23, 2011 21:30:19 GMT
The Guardian article chris linked to said: The best comment on the issue remains Herring's, whose Twitter feed is full of abuse – and praise – for making a stand. He said: "Just a thought, but if you think mong only means idiot, why not just use the word idiot?"I think it's only fair to point out that idiot isn't entirely in the clear: idiot 2.
a. Chiefly Law and Psychiatry. A person so profoundly disabled in mental function or intellect as to be incapable of ordinary acts of reasoning or rational conduct; spec. a person permanently so affected, as distinguished from one with a temporary severe mental illness. Now hist. in technical use.
By the older legal authorities in England an idiot was defined as a person congenitally deficient in reasoning powers (cf. quot. 1590), and this remained for a long time the common implication of the term.I believe this term was used on the 19th century census forms. So, in effect, by using the word "idiot" willy-nilly, are we still abusing people with learning difficulties? |
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Post by trubble on Oct 24, 2011 2:03:44 GMT
I'm saying nothing. I still use the ''joey'' face duh. It's not my fault - I am a product of my upbringing. Shit happens.Anyway - who is funnier than Ricky Gervais at the moment?  Long may he continue, I say, and if he gets some things wrong so be it. New series from him coming up: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b012csf6 - Life's Too Short, starring the fabulous Warwick Davis (Willow). Ricky Gervais said: "Third in our trilogy of TV sitcoms, Life's Too Short is another naturalist observational comedy, dealing with everyday problems, human foibles and social faux pas... but with a dwarf." See, when everything else became off limits - about, what, a decade ago? - the only thing we were allowed to laugh at was dwarves. Don't ask me why, but that's the truth - every comedian has a dwarf joke. There's been some dwarf-comedy crap on Channel 4 that wasn't worth watching but this Gervais/Merchant thing looks more promising, not least because Warwick Davis deserves something decent.
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Post by Weyland on Oct 24, 2011 6:41:56 GMT
Anyway - who is funnier than Ricky Gervais at the moment? William Hague. Robert Peston. Manchester United. The list is endless. |
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Post by tarzanontarmazepam on Oct 24, 2011 10:34:12 GMT
Anyway - who is funnier than Ricky Gervais at the moment? William Hague. Robert Peston. Manchester United. The list is endless. That weatherman with the tiny body and huge head; William Hague.(oh..weyland already said him); David de Gea; Dr Rowan Williams; Downton Abbey; Jim Davidson (Okay ..now I'm getting silly)...  |
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Post by trubble on Oct 24, 2011 10:50:42 GMT
You're both lying to win your point. The only possible candidate is Stewart Lee.
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Post by Weyland on Oct 24, 2011 11:02:26 GMT
You're both lying to win your point. The only possible candidate is Stewart Lee. Oh -- but including comedians hardly seems fair to the little scamp. |
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Post by jean on Oct 24, 2011 14:14:08 GMT
I believe this term was used on the 19th century census forms. So, in effect, by using the word "idiot" willy-nilly, are we still abusing people with learning difficulties? Not really, ev - it's just an interesting example of a word losing its force over time, as Gervais claims has happened with mong, though obviously is hasn't. Excellent article by Catherine Bennett in yesterday's Observer: Considering how many political-correctness-gone-mad stories turn out upon inspection to be thoroughly untrue, you could easily get the impression that this particular philosophy, along with its hated enforcer, the PC brigade, has run its course.
...Even the BBC's recent messing with AD and BC failed to achieve comparisons with Nazi Germany: epic political correctness fail. Somewhere between 2005 and today, a whole strand of modern life went missing.
All credit, then, to Ricky Gervais for outing the zillions of secret thought police who are still, as it turns out, hiding here unremarked in the manner of the Stasi, on the qui vive for any citizen, such as Gervais, with the courage to exercise his freedom of speech. In this case, as widely reported, the comedian simply likes to use the word "mong", as often as possible, whether as an insult, eg: "Susan Boyle – looks like a mong" or as a meaningless pun, eg: "Good monging."
Why does he do this? Since it is not, manifestly, to make people laugh, the most convincing explanation is that Mr Gervais needs to act like an obnoxious bully on Twitter in order to make himself look defiantly transgressive and thereby draw attention to the fact that he has a new show starting on BBC2, featuring to transgressive comic effect a dwarf. After an exhaustive search for the perfect title, BBC2 came up with Life's Too Short... |
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Post by tarzanontarmazepam on Oct 24, 2011 14:39:36 GMT
The point being that Gervais is being deliberately provocative...clearly in order to gain headlines. The latter making him even more despicable. Wouldn't be quite so bad if he was just an ignorant yob. But he's media savvy... arsehole!
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A.P.P.S
Long may he continue, I say, and if he gets some things wrong so be it.
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