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Post by bonbonlarue on Nov 22, 2011 9:31:58 GMT
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Post by Weyland on Nov 22, 2011 9:56:08 GMT
Agreed. But this caught my attention, in a fluffy sort of way: " the chief executive of Mothers' Union, Reg Bailey". |
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Post by sesley on Nov 22, 2011 13:31:50 GMT
its sad to see young girls dressed up in away to sexualise them. The pop culture dilibrately aims at young people with lyrics and film images of pop stars in next to nothing,pictured stoned outside pubs.
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Post by tarzanontarmazepam on Nov 22, 2011 13:47:41 GMT
Agreed. But this caught my attention, in a fluffy sort of way: " the chief executive of Mothers' Union, Reg Bailey". Oh I know Reg...she aint 'alf a goer! Pity about the stubble and Old Spice but she'll do anything for a half a shandy.  |
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Post by everso on Nov 22, 2011 17:06:11 GMT
She'll be castigated by the liberal newspapers, but, oddly enough, I would imagine she'd have the support of the bad old Daily Mail.  |
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Post by bonbonlarue on Nov 22, 2011 18:32:40 GMT
2 weeks ago having Sunday lunch at a really nice place...a family were there celebrating Great Grandmama's umpteenth Birthday...so nice to see all the generations of the family together...but as they passed our table, there striding through was 8 year old 'Maisie' or somesuch wearing a pair of purple patent heels that even 'ole Bonbon wouldn't have worn outside the boodwar. My companion nearly had another heart attack....could have been awkward before the bill came....tut.  |
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Post by aubrey on Nov 22, 2011 19:07:57 GMT
I fon't think it matters that much, really.
I don't like the modern habit of having a prom, though.
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Post by bonbonlarue on Nov 22, 2011 20:07:36 GMT
I'm afraid it does matter...an awful lot. Young girls sexualised grow up to believe that they are only there for the use of....at best ending up with a family from multiple Fathers and at worst ..well..fill in the gaps.
The fixation on looks and glamour too early gives us boob jobs, eating disorders and a generation that believes that only celebrity matters and education is a waste of time. .....
"" As Jeffries points out, dull interviews are on the rise. Given this, it may be unsurprising that Caitlin Moran's Times column, which sorts the nuggets from the drearyness, is regularly at the top of the paper's most read list. This week we hear that former Celebrity Big Brother winner Chantelle Houghton revealed in OK! Magazine what she and her cagefighter fiancee Alex Reid talk about. She told the magazine "he was laughing at me earlier because I thought the Sun and the Moon were the same thing. Turns out they're not!"
What happens when the stretch marks and wrinkles come?
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Post by aubrey on Nov 22, 2011 22:01:04 GMT
But there has never been a definition of "Sexualised." It's a word that means whatever the user wants it to mean.
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Post by jean on Nov 22, 2011 22:24:05 GMT
It's easy enough to understand what it means in this context.
I know it's your birthday, aubs, but you're not getting away with that.
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Post by tarzanontarmazepam on Nov 22, 2011 22:58:32 GMT
But Aubrey is right. If I wear a latex bra and a strap on, then some might say I've been sexualised ( I don't incidentally...well not tonight).
Education of course is an entirely different issue, although the two are connected, and we need a complete overhaul of the education system in this country, which wont ever happen under a Tory government of course. The system at present is there to keep people stupid, unlike Japan whose attitude toward sex is far more liberated than the Brits but whose education system is second to none.
The Brits are retarded in many areas...sex being one of them.
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Post by everso on Nov 22, 2011 23:54:40 GMT
But Aubrey is right. If I wear a latex bra and a strap on, then some might say I've been sexualised ( I don't incidentally...well not tonight). Education of course is an entirely different issue, although the two are connected, and we need a complete overhaul of the education system in this country, which wont ever happen under a Tory government of course. The system at present is there to keep people stupid, unlike Japan whose attitude toward sex is far more liberated than the Brits but whose education system is second to none. The Brits are retarded in many areas...sex being one of them. But we're talking here about little girls, Chris. Little girls that should be allowed to have an innocent childhood. |
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Post by jean on Nov 23, 2011 9:52:29 GMT
But we're talking here about little girls, Chris. Little girls that should be allowed to have an innocent childhood. Of course they should! And I don't think the reference to our education system is relevant as opposed to Japan's is relevant in the least. If it's true that education in Britain keeps people stupid it's because it doesn't drum enough maths into their heads (as the Japanese education system does) rather than that it doesn't encourage premature sexual awareness (as the Japanese system doesn't). |
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Post by bonbonlarue on Nov 23, 2011 10:36:10 GMT
Chris, what you choose to wear as an adult is your own business. I have a certain style that I choose to wear. I certainly wasn't allowed to as a child even if I wanted to. {I had a quite sheltered upbringing TBH} I remember my Father ordering my Mother to buy me a bra at the age of 12 after he'd seen me bouncing running up the road....I hated it.... This is what makes me angry....  ...and it's one of the tamer ones....  |
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Post by sesley on Nov 23, 2011 13:21:36 GMT
you can,not that i agree see how muslims see the hijab is a sensible option for women,to protect girls from inappropriate clothes,and undignified attention
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Post by tarzanontarmazepam on Nov 23, 2011 13:36:36 GMT
Chris, what you choose to wear as an adult is your own business. I have a certain style that I choose to wear. I certainly wasn't allowed to as a child even if I wanted to. {I had a quite sheltered upbringing TBH} I remember my Father ordering my Mother to buy me a bra at the age of 12 after he'd seen me bouncing running up the road....I hated it.... This is what makes me angry.... ...and it's one of the tamer ones.... But does the little girl in that pic look sexualised? Another word that is used is 'pornification', now what the hell is that supposed to mean? In the early Eighties Channel Four ran a programme called 'Minipops' which had little girls dressed in make up and sixties style mini skirts and boots singing pop classics from the charts. The programme was banned after some viewers complained, so to make the point this theory about children being 'sexualised' isn't a new concept. But I'm not sure little girls wanting to be 'grown ups' and 'dressing up' isn't more of a natural phenomenon than one that is being forced upon them by irresponsible adults. If children are being used to sell sex, that's a different matter altogether, but if children were properly educated, which they are not, teen pregnancies and behaviour which could be construed as morally bereft, wouldn't happen...regardless of what clothes they wore and'or make up. I'm starting to think the 'sexualisation of children' is something of a myth tbh, perpetuated by our hysterical tabloids. They love to frighten people you know! |
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Post by trubble on Nov 23, 2011 14:24:38 GMT
Huh? What is that picture? It looks like a family picture that you are taking out of context, tbh.
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Post by trubble on Nov 23, 2011 14:25:14 GMT
And if that is the case, I would like it removed. For the sake of the kid?
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Post by trubble on Nov 23, 2011 14:30:52 GMT
Was Mini-pops actually banned? I doubt that.
In my understanding, Mini-pops was quite a success, especially with children, and really only got its bad name when the fashion for cheap nostalgic TV ''list'' programmes came into its own, somewhere around the millennium, I guess. Wannabe comedians et al found that Mini-pops was ripe for lampoon and tut tutting and so on.
There was never a real problem.
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Post by trubble on Nov 23, 2011 14:38:16 GMT
That pic is of a girl in a pageant! I think it's the pageant mentality & all its side issues that's making Bonbon irate. Sometimes the 'dressing up' argument is used to justify the pageants, and maybe it's a fair justification, but there's always a level of bizarreness too that makes most of us feel it's just twisted.  For example: this ''photo'' of a beauty pageant contestant was probably enormous fun to get together, but the message any contestant with a brain would eventually get from it is: Here is beauty. Here is what you must strive to be. This is the goal. This is you at your best. And the response would surely eventually be: I am not that. I have failed. I can never be that but I must try. Bizarre. More pics >> izismile.com/2010/02/15/child_beauty_pageant_part_2_19_pics.html |
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