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Post by Weyland on Aug 21, 2012 19:12:17 GMT
You have been called a fascist in the past, though? (Oh, I forgot - teenage girls.) Actually, the reason I didn't try GWD first thing was that the only thread that seemed immediately interesting was one where I would have been arguing against you, Riot: and I didn't feel that I was ready for that. (Naturally, it was about porn, heh heh.) I remember that thread. It might as well have been labeled The Sun should be on the top shelf. |
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Post by riotgrrl on Aug 21, 2012 19:19:45 GMT
You have been called a fascist in the past, though? (Oh, I forgot - teenage girls.) Actually, the reason I didn't try GWD first thing was that the only thread that seemed immediately interesting was one where I would have been arguing against you, Riot: and I didn't feel that I was ready for that. (Naturally, it was about porn, heh heh.) I remember that thread. It might as well have been labeled The Sun should be on the top shelf.Yes, that's right, you were very keen to join in with the laddish sneering on that thread Weyland, right down to calling both me and SWL liars. It was an interesting thread, and interesting to see that side of you. |
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Post by riotgrrl on Aug 21, 2012 19:22:11 GMT
You have been called a fascist in the past, though? (Oh, I forgot - teenage girls.) Actually, the reason I didn't try GWD first thing was that the only thread that seemed immediately interesting was one where I would have been arguing against you, Riot: and I didn't feel that I was ready for that. (Naturally, it was about porn, heh heh.) No, I was called a fascist for wanting Scotland to be independent. Scotland is, apparently, like the Third Reich with our saltires flying. Etc. As to the porn debate, it was astonishing that the women were all willing to consider the reasonable proposition that the increased availability of pornography was causing harm, particularly to young peoples' ideas of healthy sexual relationships, while the men took on a particularly aggrieved and sneering tone at the very idea. I've never seen so many closed minds in one go. Presumably most of you are online one-handed most of the time, and didn't want to be held accountable for your habits? |
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Post by riotgrrl on Aug 21, 2012 19:23:30 GMT
But don't some things become slightly impossible? Nothing is impossible Jean. Especially after a couple of large red ones. |
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Post by Weyland on Aug 21, 2012 19:31:07 GMT
I remember that thread. It might as well have been labeled The Sun should be on the top shelf.Yes, that's right, you were very keen to join in with the laddish sneering on that thread Weyland, right down to calling both me and SWL liars. It was an interesting thread, and interesting to see that side of you. You're going to have to justify those statements, Riot. Chapter and verse. I sneered at you laddishly, and I called you a liar? |
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Post by aubrey on Aug 21, 2012 19:34:06 GMT
(...the note I was given said Mushrooms, not half of one)... What a casuist you are, aubrey! Not really. What I had to watch for was high potassium content: mushrooms have a high content, and (say) carrots have a low: but I could still only have two portions of stuff on the low list (and two off the medium). Mushrooms was the right word to use, as they meant a portion. My potassium levels were ok anyway - too low, one time (when I got to eat half a banana). Now, instead of trying to keep my potassium down, I have to keep it up - no, that's phosphate. I don't know if I have to think about potassium at all. |
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Post by Weyland on Aug 21, 2012 19:34:31 GMT
As to the porn debate, it was astonishing that the women were all willing to consider the reasonable proposition that the increased availability of pornography was causing harm, particularly to young peoples' ideas of healthy sexual relationships, while the men took on a particularly aggrieved and sneering tone at the very idea. Shite. You (and SWL) claimed that corner shops in Scotland routinely sell hard-core pornography. |
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Post by aubrey on Aug 21, 2012 19:44:05 GMT
I seriously don't think it does. The kind of society that represses porn will also suppress anything to do with sex, and that has a much more detrimental effect on healthy sexual relationships than a few boys imagining that women all want facials (which can be countered by decent education anyway: if young people are getting their sex education from porn, that indicates a lack of it elsewhere).
No other harms, really.
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Post by jean on Aug 21, 2012 19:53:56 GMT
Yes, that's right, you were very keen to join in with the laddish sneering on that thread Weyland, right down to calling both me and SWL liars. It was an interesting thread, and interesting to see that side of you. |
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Post by aubrey on Aug 21, 2012 20:40:17 GMT
Oh, and the best sellingist book of all time (or something - more or faster than Harry Potter, anyway) is read almost exclusively by women, and is 100% porn. It also gives a very inaccurate idea of human sexual relationships.
No fantasy gives much of an idea of real life: but porn in general is much more realistic than, say, the romantic comedy, and much less likely to leave you dissatisfied with your own life.
(People seem surprised that 50 Shades is not great literature. Of course not: it's porn. Literature would just get in the way.)
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Post by Weyland on Aug 21, 2012 20:41:21 GMT
Yes, that's right, you were very keen to join in with the laddish sneering on that thread Weyland, right down to calling both me and SWL liars. It was an interesting thread, and interesting to see that side of you. It's 38 pages the way I view it (Firefox on Linux). Enjoy. |
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Post by aubrey on Aug 21, 2012 21:32:54 GMT
I am finding it very hard to drink as much as I should. before I started dialysis I was put onto two litres a day and found that not as much as I wanted: now for me to get over that amount. It's not that the drinking itself is hard: more that I forget to do it. After 4 years of one small cup of coffee in the morning, ditto tea in the afternoon, the odd swallow of squash every now and then, a small glass of water with my tea, and about 150 -200 mls of squash to take to bed, when I used to think about drinking fluids all the time, I've got out of the habit. Either that, or else I'm sometimes forgetting to make a note of what I do drink.
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Post by jean on Aug 21, 2012 22:10:28 GMT
And the small glass of whisky? I remember that.
But do be careful and do what they tell you! I'm sure you will get used to it.
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Post by aubrey on Aug 22, 2012 1:38:52 GMT
I will (I haven't had any alcohol since I got back home, though. That's maybe why I'm posting at 2.30 am).
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Post by housesparrow on Aug 22, 2012 5:58:30 GMT
Alcohol always sends me off to sleep, but then wakes me up about four hours later. Usually I'm far too groggy to post - post conherently at least!
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Post by riotgrrl on Aug 22, 2012 6:31:49 GMT
As to the porn debate, it was astonishing that the women were all willing to consider the reasonable proposition that the increased availability of pornography was causing harm, particularly to young peoples' ideas of healthy sexual relationships, while the men took on a particularly aggrieved and sneering tone at the very idea. Shite. You (and SWL) claimed that corner shops in Scotland routinely sell hard-core pornography. That's right. Because they do. Which SWL knows about as he used to work in magazine distribution. |
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Post by riotgrrl on Aug 22, 2012 6:36:07 GMT
I seriously don't think it does. The kind of society that represses porn will also suppress anything to do with sex, and that has a much more detrimental effect on healthy sexual relationships than a few boys imagining that women all want facials (which can be countered by decent education anyway: if young people are getting their sex education from porn, that indicates a lack of it elsewhere). No other harms, really. If you seriously don't accept that porn causes harm, you should maybe read some testimonies from rape victims, where the acts used against them and the words used during the acts have been traced directly back to the pornograhpy consumption of the rapist. Nobody's suggesting your weird porn is the problem; the problem is that porn has got harder, more damaging to women (multiple penetration, the mainstreaming of anal sex) and is now so easily available that every adolescent boy in the land has watched this. (In my day they'd have had a look at their Dad's Playboy) and that this is affecting their attitudes to relationships and sex. There is certainly enough evidence that this is happening to give any reasonable person cause to pause for thought. That is to say, any reasonable person (obviously excluding yourself and Weyland) who doesn't want to scream and shout and stamp their feet in denial lest they be deprived of their own one-handed hobby. |
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Post by Weyland on Aug 22, 2012 8:43:52 GMT
If you seriously don't accept that porn causes harm, you should maybe read some testimonies from rape victims Who, me? You clearly haven't read my posts. Again. As for corner shops selling hard-core pornography, I just don't believe it. They don't in England at any rate. Note that I'm not calling you a liar. Any news on the sneering/liar front? |
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Post by housesparrow on Aug 22, 2012 9:56:44 GMT
Gentle people, this is the convalescent thread. One of us has had a kidney shoved in and another a tooth taken out.
Can we get back to the business of alcohol?
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Post by Weyland on Aug 22, 2012 10:17:06 GMT
Gentle people, this is the convalescent thread. One of us has had a kidney shoved in and another a tooth taken out. Can we get back to the business of alcohol? Doesn't happen very often these days, but I was served a bad pint in Warwick a few days ago. There's nothing quite as bad as a bad pint in Warwick. Beware the Rose & Crown. (But the chicken wrap was OK.) |
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