Jelly in Trifle

[trubble]

High and height rhyme. In RP.

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Once again, Stub Crouch is ahead of the trends and is clearly an influence on the wider world:

www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/poll/2009/dec/21/perfect-trifle-jelly

21 Dec 2009.

Are there any desserts more likely to cause controversy than the trifle? It's a dish which is vastly more than the sum of its contentious parts, with the inclusion of each layer often hotly contested in households all over the country. The issue of most import is – should it, or should it not contain jelly?....

....So, what do you put in your trifle - does anything go, or do you follow familial or cultural tradition? Is jelly really the most controversial ingredient, and is it (please, God, no) really a class issue?

Should trifle contain jelly?


62.4% Yes

37.6% No

This poll is now closed

Catherine, hello, nice of you to call by. Please could you give us a little shout out the next time that the Stub inspires you? Ta Muchly, lots of love etc. xxxxxx

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It's a good article, by the way.

[riotgrrl]

Aug 30, 2010 19:19:31 GMT trubble said:

High and height rhyme. In RP.

Thank goodness I don't live in RP then, if the people there are so unable to distinguish their vowel sounds.

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whats RP?

[riotgrrl]

Aug 30, 2010 19:38:57 GMT @costal said:

whats RP?

It's the accent that the queen has. Received pronounciation (which I have probably spelled wrong, as Jean and Weyland tut-tutted over my spelling of that word previously, but nonetheless failed to correct me.)

I was only joking that it was a place.

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Thuh Queen mohust definitlee duz nawt - NAAWWT - speek Ah Pee.

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No one speaks RP.

[riotgrrl]

Aug 30, 2010 19:46:31 GMT trubble said:

Thuh Queen mohust definitlee duz nawt - NAAWWT - speek Ah Pee.

Well who does then? Give us an example!

[trubble]

Maybe Hugh Laurie does. No. What am I thinking? He's got a posh voice.

Here's a decent example:

[riotgrrl]

Aug 30, 2010 19:53:33 GMT trubble said:

Maybe Hugh Laurie does. No. What am I thinking? He's got a posh voice.

Here's a decent example:

Since when did 'gastric' and 'fast' have different 'a' sounds?

Freaks. They're the exact same.

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BLOATED FROM EATING A ROASTED TOMATO? mustve been a big tomato n that.

[trubble]

That's posh people for you. It's another world.

[Weyland]

Aug 30, 2010 18:27:59 GMT @riotgrrl said:

Aug 30, 2010 16:49:40 GMT Weyland said:

Ah. Now we're getting somewhere. You mean it's "tritefill".

Yes. They're the same sounds -- "high" and "height". Anyone disagree? (Apart from Riot, obviously.)

Nonsense. Utter nonsense.

High rhymes with sky.

Height rhymes with might.

Riot: You said "Because it doesn't rhym with the i sound in high. It rhymes with the ite sound in height."

So that means that the "i" in "trifle" rhymes with "ite". Not "rhymes with i" -- "rhymes with ite".

You also said "Trigh-fill ... It's not really Trigh to rhyme with high. It's a sorty of aeeei sound".

That gives us two possibilities for a Riotous pronunciation of "trifle", namely "tritefill" and "traeeeitfill".

Do you want to deny that you said those things?

Well do you, Punkette?!

[Weyland]

Aug 30, 2010 19:19:31 GMT trubble said:

High and height rhyme. In RP.

You mean like "fry" and "fright" rhyme?

In a word, shite.

[Weyland]

Aug 30, 2010 19:42:30 GMT @riotgrrl said:

Aug 30, 2010 19:38:57 GMT @costal said:

whats RP?

It's the accent that the queen has. Received pronounciation (which I have probably spelled wrong, as Jean and Weyland tut-tutted over my spelling of that word previously, but nonetheless failed to correct me.)

I was only joking that it was a place.

1. The Queen does not speak RP. RP is so-called standard English, and she certainly doesn't speak that.

2. Use a dictionary.

[Weyland]

Aug 30, 2010 20:03:20 GMT @riotgrrl said:

Aug 30, 2010 19:53:33 GMT trubble said:

Maybe Hugh Laurie does. No. What am I thinking? He's got a posh voice.

Here's a decent example:

Since when did 'gastric' and 'fast' have different 'a' sounds?

Freaks. They're the exact same.

You're right, Riot. RP has several degenerate vowels like that.

[Patrick]

Aug 30, 2010 19:53:33 GMT trubble said:

Maybe Hugh Laurie does. No. What am I thinking? He's got a posh voice.

No - too much outside influence has crept in. He's verging (ever so slightly) on the "Estuary" now.

(Does anyone else have trouble writing "ever so" with a space in between these days?)

(Does anyone else have trubble writing trouble these days too?)

[riotgrrl]

Aug 30, 2010 21:24:48 GMT Weyland said:

Aug 30, 2010 18:27:59 GMT @riotgrrl said:

Nonsense. Utter nonsense.

High rhymes with sky.

Height rhymes with might.

Riot: You said "Because it doesn't rhym with the i sound in high. It rhymes with the ite sound in height."

So that means that the "i" in "trifle" rhymes with "ite". Not "rhymes with i" -- "rhymes with ite".

You also said "Trigh-fill ... It's not really Trigh to rhyme with high. It's a sorty of aeeei sound".

That gives us two possibilities for a Riotous pronunciation of "trifle", namely "tritefill" and "traeeeitfill".

Do you want to deny that you said those things?

Well do you, Punkette?!

I will say 'trifle' in Lambeth and you can choose when I was right and when I was wrong.

[Patrick]

I used to be RP. My brother, when being annoying still gets me to talk to his friends so they can hear how my (now) Lunnon torking bruvver used to sound like.

Mine's watered down a bit - but being 'neutral' it means I'm very good at mimicking other accents. Some day I might show you.